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  • Yes, jailtime.

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  • Yah, first fine, then jail, mild jail time.

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  • Hmm.. Perhaps..

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I don't condone adultery. It is selfish. It's not the same thing as robbing a bank though. Cheating doesn't rob the other spouse of anything. It's dishonest, but being dishonest with your spouse isn't illegal. And it certainly has it's consequences just as cheating does.
    In some places, cheating is illegal.
    It is anologous to robbing a bank in that it is not behavior that society tolerates.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    How is thinking that it is ok to sleep with married people NOT selfish? .
    No one has said its ok. Its just that hurting someones feelings isn't an offense that warrants criminal punishment.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I understand... in this area, you are completely selfish and feel that you should be able to do whatever you want, no matter who it hurts or what laws it breaks. It is clear. We understand.
    Everything we do is for selfish reasons. I am no different than anyone else in that regard.

    And of course I should be able to do whatever I want, provided I don't physically harm someone else, or take something from them. As should everyone.

    Regardless, making hurt feelings a criminal act is pretty goddamn ridiculous.

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    And there you go... completely overlook any and all personal responsibility!
    How do I overlook personal responsibility?

    "It aint my fault people, my kids helped ruin the family too!"
    Where did I say that?

    I love it. There is a problem in the relationship, so instead of dealing with it, you think that it is ok to **** another person. Sounds like you and those that you have known that do this are truly healthy in the emotional department.
    Where did I say it was "ok" to cheat? I simply said that lying or hurting someone's feelings shouldn't be a criminal act.


    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post


    Feelings... Selfish partner? Get ****ing divorced. Its this kind of attitude which really underlines to importance of making adultery punishable behavior.
    But what if getting divorced hurts your spouse and makes them depressed? What if it "ruins the family"? Isn't asking for a divorce a completely SELFISH thing to do?

    What if your spouse won't agree to a divorce?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That is all fine. I am simply making a case that adultery should not be tolerated.
    And if your partner cheats on you, you have every right not to tolerate it and get a divorce. Other people have a right to stick it out and work through the issues without state involvement, or jailtime.

    There should be a consequence beyond a simple divorce, or child support.
    It is not punishment... it is another consequence. Will it get people to think
    before they screw around? Irrelevant. That is not the point of such a
    consequence.
    Then what is the point?

    That being said, I find it absolutely hilarious, and at the same time completely and utterly pathetic that certain people justify such behavior as acceptable, instead of labeling it for what it is... completely selfish and untrustworthy.
    Who said it was acceptable? Who said it wasn't selfish? Who said it wasn't untrustworthy?

    I had this debate before and proved my case logically and beyond refute, and I am not that interested in getting that into it again. It is disheartening, for one thing. This is why I ended up not going into law enforcement and law.
    Sadly Bodhi, you did not "prove your case" by any stretch of the imagination.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    No. You are trying to justify adultery with

    Adultery being criminal behaviour is not because of hurt feelings, but as punishment for ruining families and betraying other people... So, when you loose interest and all those things you mention above, you SHOULD have two choices, get separated/divorced or cheat on the person and pretend like nothing, but risk jail time.
    Are we going to criminalize all other lying too? Are we going to criminalize any other actions that might "ruin" a family?

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    No. You are trying to justify adultery with

    Adultery being criminal behaviour is not because of hurt feelings, but as punishment for ruining families and betraying other people... So, when you loose interest and all those things you mention above, you SHOULD have two choices, get separated/divorced or cheat on the person and pretend like nothing, but risk jail time.
    I believe that people should leave before they cheat. But I don't see it as a crime if they don't.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    In some places, cheating is illegal.
    It is anologous to robbing a bank in that it is not behavior that society tolerates.
    And those places even realize it isn't practical to pursue charges.

    And I think society is hypocritical. Society claims to not tolerate prostitution yet the market suggests otherwise.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    No one has said its ok. Its just that hurting someones feelings isn't an offense that warrants criminal punishment.
    Why does it have to be about feelings instead of something legitimate?

    I haven't seen anyone argue that adultery should be criminal because it would hurt someone's feelings, so why are you assuming that's the counter argument you need to address?

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Why does it have to be about feelings instead of something legitimate?

    I haven't seen anyone argue that adultery should be criminal because it would hurt someone's feelings, so why are you assuming that's the counter argument you need to address?
    Actually, several people have argued just that. No one has offered this "legit" reason you mystically speak of but never enlighten us with.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No, it doesn't. The families ruin their families. Many couples remain together despite cheating partners. Many families are ruined even without cheating. And, not all married people have kids anyway.

    The cheating is a symptom of a problem in the relationship. It can either be fixed, or not. It's up to the individuals IN THE RELATIONSHIP to decide what to do. Not you. And certainly not the state.

    In many cases, the marriage breakup is the best thing for everyone in it.
    It can not be overstated just how full of **** you are.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Actually, several people have argued just that. No one has offered this "legit" reason you mystically speak of but never enlighten us with.
    I did, though...you missed it?

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It can not be overstated just how full of **** you are.
    Sooo... the people involved in a family don't "ruin" their family? Who does? Who could ruin a relationship if not the people IN the relationship?

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    I did, though...you missed it?
    Apparently. Me and everyone else.

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