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  • Yes, jailtime.

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  • Yah, first fine, then jail, mild jail time.

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  • Hmm.. Perhaps..

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Has the value of counseling been shown to increase the lives of the children that the state shall impose such consequences upon the people in such matters?

    Its an amiable idea but I just don't think counseling is going to have such an effect on the children where the state should impose itself into such civil matters. Not to mention the costs of such a social service.

    I'm sure there is a correlation. I just don't see counseling as a viable solution without proof, especially when it involves the state poking their head into the private lives of its citizens.

    so write it into the marriage license?
    I'm not 100% certain it would. There might be a real value to it, but I would need to look into the efficacy of marriage counseling in general to determine if it would actually have value.

    I chose the term "might be" in the post because I am not sure either way, but I think it has a lot more chance of efficacy that imprisonment would. It would be interesting to see if it actually would be effective and have value.

    Upon re-reading the post though, I can see that I wasn't really clear that I was speaking in potentialities. It could have been read as a potentiality or as a firm belief depending on perspective.

    Sorry about that. I had meant it as a potentiality, not a concrete statement.

    In other words, my wording of the statement was ****.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The "State" does what the "People" tell it to do...
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Because they are crimes that effect other people... THAT is the logical connection that I am applying.
    Everything that anyone does at any given time affects other people. Your "logical connection" is too broad to be of any use or value.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I'm not 100% certain it would. There might be a real value to it, but I would need to look into the efficacy of marriage counseling in general to determine if it would actually have value. I chose the term "might be" in the post because I am not sure either way, but I think it has a lot more chance of efficacy that imprisonment would. It would be interesting to see if it actually would be effective and have value.

    Upon re-reading the post though, I can see that I wasn't really clear that I was speaking in potentialities. It could have been read as a potentiality or as a firm belief depending on perspective.

    Sorry about that. I had meant it as a potentiality, not a concrete statement.

    In other words, my wording of the statement was ****.
    On top of the precedent this would set for civil contracts:

    I'm a strong believer that the gov't shouldn't do anything that's not absolutely necessary (I usually describe such as a "compelling interest"); limited/small gov't. So I'm very paranoid when people want to expand the gov't and spend more tax payer money at the drop of a hat for something of questionable effect. That's all.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Everything that anyone does at any given time affects other people. Your "logical connection" is too broad to be of any use or value.
    No it isn't... you just don't like the connection.

    Everything effects everything on a subatomic level... chaos theory. So if we looked at it the way that you seem to, then a distant pulsar is as much too blame as the adulterer. We have to draw the line somewhere, and that is what I have done.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Of course. The state (that is the authorities; people cannot act as police or judges) can strip you of each and every one of your rights if compelling interest is shown. We can also amend the constitution to do anything we want if the "people" want it.

    But try being a little more specific rather than stating the obvious.
    Your initial statement indicated that you were not aware of the obvious...
    Re-word what you mean then...

    If you say that the state has no interest in something that society has an interest in, then you are unaware as to how the system actually works. If you get it, then that is fine, but please don't attempt to insult my intelligence simply because you misspoke. It regards personal accountability...
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Your initial statement indicated that you were not aware of the obvious...
    Re-word what you mean then...

    If you say that the state has no interest in something that society has an interest in, then you are unaware as to how the system actually works.
    Additionally, the state can only violate rights, such as privacy, where I believe If you get it, then that is fine, but please don't attempt to insult my intelligence simply because you misspoke. It regards personal accountability...
    I've stopped caring about this tangent.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No it isn't... you just don't like the connection.

    Everything effects everything on a subatomic level... chaos theory. So if we looked at it the way that you seem to, then a distant pulsar is as much too blame as the adulterer. We have to draw the line somewhere, and that is what I have done.
    You drew the line at someone's action affecting someone else, and that is far, FAR too broad. Someone's wittle feelings getting hurt isn't grounds for incarceration.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    I've stopped caring about this tangent.

    Look, I know you are a smart guy, but the whole personal responsibility thing is paramount if we are to communicate effectively...
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    You drew the line at someone's action affecting someone else, and that is far, FAR too broad. Someone's wittle feelings getting hurt isn't grounds for incarceration.

    It is not too broad. They align within the realm of what is, and what could be criminal.
    Breach of contract should not be taken so lightly...
    Betraying the trust of loved ones, and kids should not be taken so lightly...
    There should be a consequence, just as in the cases that I indicated.

    I hear your opinion, and in most cases that is probably fair.
    I think that in some cases, incarceration is the exact thing that should be done.

    In all cases, mandatory counseling (personal) should be a consequence.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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