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  • Obviously! It should carry MMS and strict for 2nd++ offense..

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  • Yes, jailtime.

    4 3.64%
  • Yah, first fine, then jail, mild jail time.

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  • Hmm.. Perhaps..

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Care to explain why you would compare a breakup with infidelity?

    As far as I'm concerned infidelity (when the relationship was obviously understood to be manogamous) is an attack on the "cheated" spouse. There is no option there. With a "breakup" you merely go your separate ways for xx reason.

    You can try to justify it all you want, but I don't think I will ever be able to look at a breakup and cheating as the same thing.
    You said something about emotional pain and that people should be punished for causing someone else emotional pain. I just wanted to see how consistent you were going to be in that wild idea. Obviously, not very. (which is what I figured)

    Then you made some qualifier about infidelity counting more in the grand scheme of emotional pain because it's a "destructive act perpetrated by a willing individual". But so is breaking up with someone. So, even your qualifier has a direct comparison.
    Last edited by rivrrat; 02-16-09 at 10:49 PM.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    And that doesn't require state involvement.
    Yeah it does.

    Custody, "community property"....

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Or heteros who don't want children!!
    Right.

    Heteros who don't want children have no business getting married.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Or people who are unable to have them!!
    The couple doesn't have to have their own natural children to "rais children". They could adopt.

    Are you unaware of the data of 2 parent homes that don't have state sanctioned marriage contracts involved?
    Oh it sounds like you have some data. Yummy. Please share.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Are you unable to comprehend that people can and DO have children together and raise children together all withOUT the government getting involved?
    That's why the state steps in and declares "common-law marriage" on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    *GASP* I know, it's a big shocker, eh?
    No I expected the nipple piercing, but girl you need to shave that ****.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    It's been going on for thousands of years, actually. And still going on today.
    Yeah, syphilis is a bitch.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    What else are you saying?

    See, let's refresh your memory:
    /console ReloadUI

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Unless one is able and willing to have children, apparently one's relationship doesn't deserve respect. And it doesn't "rise to the level of marriage". And as such, one cannot be "cheated on".
    That's exactly what I'm saying, yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    So again... people that don't have children can't be hurt by cheating?
    Well of course they can, I just don't care because without children we're talking about splitting property.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Because you twisted this whole conversation around to TEH CHILDREN when we were talking about CHEATING.
    I'm pretty good at that

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    More than one person in this thread has said that the emotional pain and suffering caused by cheating should be grounds for jailtime. When I and others queried as to other means with which people inflict the same, if not more emotional pain and suffering and why those things shouldn't have the same punishment, you suddenly went off about biological imperatives and children, and families, etc, etc. As if people who don't sign state contracts can't have families. As if people who don't sign state contracts can't incur pain and suffering.
    Ahh ok, I see where we differ.

    I don't base the crime on the emotional damage of the *adults* who are in control of their lives. I base the crime on the children because they are the innocent party, not in control of anything, who will be actually damaged.

    You can cry it out for a few days and move on.

    That child will be missing a home and at least one parent at any given time for years. This will have lasting damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Would you care to be just a little more concise in your answer and stop beating around the bush? All you have said thus far is that people who don't sign a piece of paper aren't worthy, or can't get hurt, or can't even get cheated on, and some nonsense about only people who sign papers can have 2 parent homes. Really, none of it makes any logical sense.
    The people who actually mean it, make the commitment.

    The people who don't make the commitment, are liars.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yeah it does.
    No, it doesn't.


    Heteros who don't want children have no business getting married.
    LMFAO


    Oh it sounds like you have some data. Yummy. Please share.
    They exist, and have for centuries.

    That's why the state steps in and declares "common-law marriage" on them.
    LOL

    In a handful of states, sure:
    Alabama
    Colorado
    District of Columbia
    Georgia (if created before 1/1/97)
    Idaho (if created before 1/1/96)
    Iowa
    Kansas
    Montana
    New Hampshire (for inheritance purposes only)
    Ohio (if created before 10/10/91)
    Oklahoma
    Pennsylvania (if created before 1/1/05)
    Rhode Island
    South Carolina
    Texas
    Utah

    And only if they adhere to the following conditions:
    * live together for a significant period of time (not defined in any state)
    * hold themselves out as a married couple -- typically this means using the same last name, referring to the other as "my husband" or "my wife," and filing a joint tax return, and
    * intend to be married.

    And not a damn thing about children.... weird. Not a damn thing about any contractual agreements either.

    That's exactly what I'm saying, yes.
    Ah, well then. No point in talking to you further.


    The people who actually mean it, make the commitment.

    The people who don't make the commitment, are liars.
    Commitment doesn't require a signature on a piece of paper.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Why should I have to be subject to a court with a matter of my personal life. I'd (hypothetically) already would have to go through a divorce which is stressful enough! But again there is nothing wrong with getting a divorce in my opinion and that is my religious belief.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Radical Ron View Post
    Why should I have to be subject to a court with a matter of my personal life.
    What does that even mean

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No, it doesn't.
    Yeah, it does.

    If the relationship doesn't include anything which is shared, then it's not a real union.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    LMFAO
    ZOMGROTFLMAO

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    They exist, and have for centuries.
    That doesn't mean they should

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    LOL


    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    In a handful of states, sure:
    Alabama
    Colorado
    District of Columbia
    Georgia (if created before 1/1/97)
    Idaho (if created before 1/1/96)
    Iowa
    Kansas
    Montana
    New Hampshire (for inheritance purposes only)
    Ohio (if created before 10/10/91)
    Oklahoma
    Pennsylvania (if created before 1/1/05)
    Rhode Island
    South Carolina
    Texas
    Utah

    And only if they adhere to the following conditions:
    * live together for a significant period of time (not defined in any state)
    * hold themselves out as a married couple -- typically this means using the same last name, referring to the other as "my husband" or "my wife," and filing a joint tax return, and
    * intend to be married.

    And not a damn thing about children.... weird. Not a damn thing about any contractual agreements either.
    Thank you for backing up my argument.

    Did you want to make your own now?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Ah, well then. No point in talking to you further.
    You love to hate me.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Commitment doesn't require a signature on a piece of paper.
    If there is nothing shared, there is no union.

    There is only you and him separately living in proximity. That's not a union.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Thank you for backing up my argument.

    Did you want to make your own now?
    The state doesn't just come in and declare people living together to be married, which is what you said. It does no such thing.

    If there is nothing shared, there is no union.

    There is only you and him separately living in proximity. That's not a union.
    Everything is shared, what the heck are you talking about?

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    So when Joe is renting that motel room with the new hot girl Jenny from the office about to get some, I am sure he will stop and say "hmm.. I might go to jail for this...." because if he is not thinking about his wife as he enters in that room with her, I am sure the jail time will be the thing to keep him faithful. Then he can tell his wife he stayed faithful because he didn't want to go to jail over it. And she will hug and kiss him for being such a good boy and they will live happily ever after. Jenny on the other hand.....
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So when Joe is renting that motel room with the new hot girl Jenny from the office about to get some, I am sure he will stop and say "hmm.. I might go to jail for this...." because if he is not thinking about his wife as he enters in that room with her, I am sure the jail time will be the thing to keep him faithful. Then he can tell his wife he stayed faithful because he didn't want to go to jail over it. And she will hug and kiss him for being such a good boy and they will live happily ever after. Jenny on the other hand.....
    My wife would LOVE it if I came home and said, "You know honey, I was sorely tempted to give this broad at the bar a roman soldier and have her give me a hot Carl in return, but then I remembered that if I banged that bitch I could go to jail. I love you. Wanna take a **** on my forehead?"


    She'd be all over that ****!
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    My wife would LOVE it if I came home and said, "You know honey, I was sorely tempted to give this broad at the bar a roman soldier and have her give me a hot Carl in return, but then I remembered that if I banged that bitch I could go to jail. I love you. Wanna take a **** on my forehead?"


    She'd be all over that ****!
    Totally. I mean, I know that would so totally make me hot to know that the only reason my partner didn't bang someone else was because he'd go to jail. I'd just be... ecstatic. Not hurt at all!

    If it takes threat of jailtime to keep my partner faithful, then I don't need him around at all. Who the **** would want to be with someone who was only faithful because the police made them be? WTH kind of relationship is THAT? Oh I know! It's a fascist one. Yippie.

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