View Poll Results: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

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  • Obviously! It should carry MMS and strict for 2nd++ offense..

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  • Yes, jailtime.

    4 3.64%
  • Yah, first fine, then jail, mild jail time.

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  • Hmm.. Perhaps..

    8 7.27%
  • No..

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    When grounds for divorce are present, the obligations of the marriage contract no longer exist.
    They exist until divorce. You can remain married in spite of those conditions. People can change their behavior.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Granted, this is becoming a semantics debate more than anything else so it would probably be best for me to simply abandon it.
    I'm answering your question in post 566.

    No, the state would not outlaw all divorces because divorce is not a breach of the license.

    As I sourced, the state has a specific list of things which breach the license, and "divorce" is not on that list.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    They exist until divorce. You can remain married in spite of those conditions. People can change their behavior.
    The specific obligation in question is "until death", which Tucker notes the absence of "until divorce" in his argument.

    The requirement "until death" stops existing for the other person when their spouse breaches the license.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    WTF are YOU talking about with 'wtf am I talking about'?

    I'm talking about what you're talking about, so if you don't know what I'm talking about then you don't know what you're talking about

    ...so I guess idk wtf ur talkin about anymore
    I thought we were talking about marriage, but then you went on some tangent about jobs and interviews. Soooo.... huh?

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The specific obligation in question is "until death", which Tucker notes the absence of "until divorce" in his argument.

    The requirement "until death" stops existing for the other person when their spouse breaches the license.
    Are you using breach to mean divorce? People can remain married until death even in the face of those conditions.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    No, no it is not.

    Care to explain exactly how it's NOT a destructive act perpetrated by a willing individual?

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I thought we were talking about marriage, but then you went on some tangent about jobs and interviews. Soooo.... huh?
    The purpose of dating is to find someone to marry.

    You = interviewer

    Your BF = the applicant

    Until there's an actual, substantive agreement, there is no reason at all why he can't date other women to see if they're a match; nor is there any reason at all why you can't date other men to see if they're a match.

    Sure, the 2 of you can say you want to be exclusive, but you can also agree on what movie to see and in neither case would there an actual substative contract to that effect.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Are you using breach to mean divorce? People can remain married until death even in the face of those conditions.
    I've been using "divorce" to mean "divorce".

    I've been using "breach" to mean:
    South Dakota Codified Laws
    25-4-2. Grounds for divorce. Divorces may be granted for any of the following causes:
    (1) Adultery;
    (2) Extreme cruelty;
    (3) Willful desertion;
    (4) Willful neglect;
    (5) Habitual intemperance;
    (6) Conviction of felony;
    (7) Irreconcilable differences.
    Divorce is not a breach. Divorce is what can happen after a breach has occured.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The purpose of dating is to find someone to marry.
    Umm...no, it's not.

    You = interviewer

    Your BF = the applicant
    No, if he's my BF, he's no longer an "applicant". Otherwise, he wouldn't be my BF.

    Until there's an actual, substantive agreement, there is no reason at all why he can't date other women to see if they're a match; nor is there any reason at all why you can't date other men to see if they're a match.
    Uhh.. yeah, there is a reason we can't do that if we agree that's not within the boundaries of our relationship. If we're seeing other people, then he's not my BF, and I'm not his GF.

    Sure, the 2 of you can say you want to be exclusive, but you can also agree on what movie to see and in neither case would there an actual substative contract to that effect.
    There is a verbal agreement, and that is all that is necessary. What is substantive is our WORD to one another, our commitment. I dunno about you, but I don't need a government instituted contract in order to keep my word to someone or be committed to them. And I sure as **** don't need one in order to expect someone else to keep their word to me.

    What you're basically saying is that it's impossible to lie to someone unless you have a government instituted contract with them. Which is just... well... stupid, to put it simply.
    Last edited by rivrrat; 02-16-09 at 06:59 PM.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Umm...no, it's not.


    No, if he's my BF, he's no longer an "applicant". Otherwise, he wouldn't be my BF.


    Uhh.. yeah, there is a reason we can't do that if we agree that's not within the boundaries of our relationship. If we're seeing other people, then he's not my BF, and I'm not his GF.


    There is a verbal agreement, and that is all that is necessary. What is substantive is our WORD to one another, our commitment. I dunno about you, but I don't need a government instituted contract in order to keep my word to someone or be committed to them. And I sure as **** don't need one in order to expect someone else to keep their word to me.

    What you're basically saying is that it's impossible to lie to someone unless you have a government instituted contract with them. Which is just... well... stupid, to put it simply.
    That's like interviewing for a job just so that you can have people interviewing for the job.

    Quite narcissistic, imo.

    The whole evolutionary purpose of sexuality is to find a mate to produce a family with.

    If that's not your intent then your relationship doesn't rise to any level disserving respect. You're just playing around, which is fine if that's all you want to do, but it is in no way even remotely as elevated as marriage.

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