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  • Yes, jailtime.

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  • Yah, first fine, then jail, mild jail time.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Pluralism, in cases of adutlery, is not a particularly valid or constructive point
    why is that? You think adultery is such a heinous crime it deserves. State punishment, I do not. Why is your opinion more valid? Because yours came from a religion?

    but it is for a society to choose,
    assuming its constitutional, yes it is.

    but to the same degree, it is a societies choice to make bad choices, so that is not much of an argument either...
    once again, the government has NO compelling reason it needs to punish my or my spouses decisions within our relationship just to satisfy others opinions on how relationships should be.




    For the same reason that government is involved in legalizing marriage in the first place.
    Which is? What is that reason? Personally I don't think they should be. But states can pass such laws if they wish to regulate such things. but a positive right is different from punishment.

    Why should they be involved in any aspect of how people conduct relationships? If it is OK or logical for them to be in one aspect, then the same can be said for the other...
    oh I see. Your logic is that since they are already doing it for one thing and another thing is similiar then it must be ok. Is that what you are saying?

    You can't have a provision calling for jailtime if your spouse cheats on you, so I'm not sure why you even brought that up.
    I know, but you can outline monetary or property for such injuries. Which is what I was trying to say.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    As if our jails and prisons aren't clogged up enough as it is.

    Religion and politics (laws) should be completely separate, though much of common law is based on some religious belief in one way or another.

    IMO - we need to be reducing our legislation and enforcing the laws that we have in place now.
    I certainly agree on this part but the laws are way out of balance...adultery should have always had severe consequenses...other laws are too strict

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    I certainly agree on this part but the laws are way out of balance...adultery should have always had severe consequenses...other laws are too strict
    Like jail time?

    I'm trying to go with the flow here, but suggesting jailtime (or any criminal prosecution) for adulterers is absurd.

    First, I'm all for the civil legal system. Commit adultery and subject yourself to the short end of divorce proceedings.

    Second, I'm all for sexual freedom. It's one of the things that separates western civilization from the cave dwelling, Islamic whackos. What's next - public stoning for adultery?

    Third, we live in a very polygamous society. What is the percentage of adultery committed by US citizens? It's probably high - in the 10's of millions I would suspect. We're going to add this caseload to our legal system?

    I don't disagree with this because of the hit on our legal and penile system, but because it's just wrong IMO. It's a civil issue, and where would it go from here? If I hit on someone who's married (though I don't realize it), will I be arrested? If I'm caught kissing my gal on a park bench, will I get incarcerated? Premarital sex = prosecution from the religious vice squad?

    No thanks.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    Like jail time?

    I'm trying to go with the flow here, but suggesting jailtime (or any criminal prosecution) for adulterers is absurd.

    First, I'm all for the civil legal system. Commit adultery and subject yourself to the short end of divorce proceedings.

    Second, I'm all for sexual freedom. It's one of the things that separates western civilization from the cave dwelling, Islamic whackos. What's next - public stoning for adultery?

    Third, we live in a very polygamous society. What is the percentage of adultery committed by US citizens? It's probably high - in the 10's of millions I would suspect. We're going to add this caseload to our legal system?

    I don't disagree with this because of the hit on our legal and penile system, but because it's just wrong IMO. It's a civil issue, and where would it go from here? If I hit on someone who's married (though I don't realize it), will I be arrested? If I'm caught kissing my gal on a park bench, will I get incarcerated? Premarital sex = prosecution from the religious vice squad?

    No thanks.
    A married adult should have the decency to divorce before deceiving their spouse and children...yes I said children because they equally suffer mentally like the parent does. Adultery has many adverse effects on our society not at first noticed but in ways the entire family foundation is veiwed etc. The list of damage can go on and on. No I don't think we should be as strict as some of the middle east countries but it needs a lot of fixing

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    A married adult should have the decency to divorce before deceiving their spouse and children...yes I said children because they equally suffer mentally like the parent does. Adultery has many adverse effects on our society not at first noticed but in ways the entire family foundation is veiwed etc. The list of damage can go on and on. No I don't think we should be as strict as some of the middle east countries but it needs a lot of fixing
    I agree, adultery has a huge impact on the family structure. So does monogamous divorce, are we going to start jailing people for simply getting divorces?

    Suggesting jailtime for adulterers is reactionary when considering this and criminalizing this act adds a religious aspect to our legal system. This is my opinion only (though the writers of our Constitution had this idea in mind) but we need to keep religious based ideology out of our political and legal system. The religious right is not much better than the Islamic whackos IMO - they're simply trying to force their beliefs down the throats of those who don't agree with them.

    Single parenting has negative consequences on children, so do parents who are just nuts. That's the way of the world. A bleeding-heart reaction to one of many factors in the decay of our family structure isn't the answer. I don't know what the answer is, but I have thoughts.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    I agree, adultery has a huge impact on the family structure. So does monogamous divorce, are we going to start jailing people for simply getting divorces?

    Suggesting jailtime for adulterers is reactionary when considering this and criminalizing this act adds a religious aspect to our legal system. This is my opinion only (though the writers of our Constitution had this idea in mind) but we need to keep religious based ideology out of our political and legal system. The religious right is not much better than the Islamic whackos IMO - they're simply trying to force their beliefs down the throats of those who don't agree with them.

    Single parenting has negative consequences on children, so do parents who are just nuts. That's the way of the world. A bleeding-heart reaction to one of many factors in the decay of our family structure isn't the answer. I don't know what the answer is, but I have thoughts.
    No I don't believe monogamous divorces should be a crime in any way..but perhaps an equal divorce tax to help deter and compensate certain issues affected in society and courts. Plus maybe the divorse tax would help americans to take marriage more seriously and not trade in their spouses every five years for a new one.

    I am not very religious at all but I still think adultery should be a very serious crime.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    After thinking it over a bit...

    Making adultery a crime punishable by jailtime will only result in far, FAR fewer people getting married. Which will likely eventually mean the state would have no more interest in it at all and get out of the marriage business altogether since no one would bother doing it (no need for it anyway). I see this as a good thing, thus I think I will support life in prison punishments for adultery. That should nip the whole marriage thing in the bud immediately.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    No I don't believe monogamous divorces should be a crime in any way..but perhaps an equal divorce tax to help deter and compensate certain issues affected in society and courts. Plus maybe the divorse tax would help americans to take marriage more seriously and not trade in their spouses every five years for a new one.

    I am not very religious at all but I still think adultery should be a very serious crime.
    I'm ok with the civil aspects you suggest, but divorce and adultery don't belong in the criminal court system. It smacks of religious intolerance.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    After thinking it over a bit...

    Making adultery a crime punishable by jailtime will only result in far, FAR fewer people getting married. Which will likely eventually mean the state would have no more interest in it at all and get out of the marriage business altogether since no one would bother doing it (no need for it anyway). I see this as a good thing, thus I think I will support life in prison punishments for adultery. That should nip the whole marriage thing in the bud immediately.
    No it would eventually lead to marriage being a more humanly sacred bond again and help society properly raise children...in turn having a lot less confused children growing up criminals with tainted morals.

    People in generaly will give it a more serious thought to make sure they are marrying the right person instead of having it in the back of their mind to just give it a half hearted try and if it doesn't work I'll just upgrade later.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Religion is kooky.

    At a young age, we start getting this **** force-fed to us. It starts with Santa Clause - lies to us to keep us happy and content. Then the "Jesus is God" stuff right after that. Then "you can't have sex before you get married" and all that other junk - right at the time when we're essentially sexually peaking and would do anything for it during the same time when your biggest priority is getting a high score on Guitar Hero.

    Even get married.

    Want to blame someone for the high adultery and divorce rate? Look to your local church. Instead of teaching our kids about this religious garbage that you can't have sex before marriage and that you have to get married to be considered "proper" - give them options. Tell them that marriage should be considered permanent and they should only do so when they're ready - ie: after 30 for most kids.

    Until then, have at it. Make no excuse for what you're doing and do it responsibly. Use protection, make no commitments.

    Be honest.

    I have been monogamous for my entire marriage. 17 years and we had kids in our early 20's. I wasn't ready then and if I had been given better advice, I would have not done either until I was at least 30. I expect that too many are in this predicament, I just happened to be in the minority that kept faithful and toughed it out even though I wasn't ready.
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