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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    The marriage. Basically they witness the willing signatures of the husband/wife. Or, witness the ceremony if there was one. But all the state wants is the signatures of the officiate (basically a notary - in fact, can be just a notary in some states), the husband and wife, and the witnesses all attesting to the fact that the husband/wife wish to be married.


    No, no ceremony required "for the most part". Especially not in the state that I can perform marriages. And even if there is some requirement for some words to be spoken, it would simply be "do you take him/her to be your husband/wife?" Already mentioned this.


    But not required.
    You seem to think I'm saying there needs to be some kind of gala event. I'm not. But there has to be a time where the two getting married get together and declare their intent to be married and are declared so by an officiant.

    THAT'S A FRICKIN' CEREMONY. If it weren't a requirement, there'd be no need for an officiant at all. The spouses could just sign.

    But you know full well that marriage is a contract, as you've said, so what was the point of all of this to start with?

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    ...after you keyed her car and wiped your ass with her handbags, right?
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?
    What do you mean "should"?

    South Dakota Codified Laws
    25-4-2. Grounds for divorce. Divorces may be granted for any of the following causes:

    (1) Adultery;
    (2) Extreme cruelty;
    (3) Willful desertion;
    (4) Willful neglect;
    (5) Habitual intemperance;
    (6) Conviction of felony;
    (7) Irreconcilable differences.


    Source: SDC 1939, 14.0703 (1) to (6); SL 1985, ch 207, 3.
    I don't see any reason to jail the adulterer.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Have you ever been cheated on? Me neither.. There is no way that you can know how you would react.. Perhaps you would be one of the people who tied a knot around your neck and died because of it..
    I've been cheated on, big whoop. Sucks. You live... unless of course you off yourself.

    But let's pretend I haven't been in the situation. Let's pretend I'm ignorant of the pain caused by inidelity. I can tell you with 100% surety that I would NEVER commit suicide over something like that.

    I'm not that much of a selfish peice of ****. Suicide is the ULTIMATE selfish behavior. It is being so invested in your own pain that you are completely heedless of the ramifications and pain that that action will cause to those that love you.

    Having far too much expereince with suicides and suicide attempts in my life is one of the main reasons why I am totally disgusted by those who do it. I can say I would never commit suicide in ANY circumstances outside of hastening my own demise due to terminal illness. In that situation, though, I would discuss the issue with those I love and if they would have any problems with it, I would not do it.

    I'll take the pain and agony upon myself for their sake.

    If someone offs themself because thier spouse cheated, they have committed a FAR more eggregious act than the cheater did. They haven't just harmed one person. They've done damage to everyone who has any emotional feelings towards them. That person's mother, father, grandparents, siblings, cousins, children, and friends will be forced to deal with the terrible consequences of that persons selfishness.

    And unlike infidelity, suicide is not something that can be gotten over. NOTHING can be done to make things better. You never get over the pain of a loved one commiting suicide, regardless of their reasons for it.

    If someone gets cheated on, I have pity for them. I honestly do. It sucks. I know exactly how much it sucks. If they decide to commit suicide over it, I have total and complete disdain for them. Any pity I might have felt for them is thrown completely out the window because they are selfish animals unworthy of my pity.

    Admittedly, suicide is not an issue where I act totally rationally. I'm way too overly emotional on the issue because of my experiences with it. It is within a person's right to kill themselves, in my opinion, but should they do it, they are peices of **** on par with murderers in my eyes. Just because onehas a right to do something doesn't mean they aren't the scum of the earth for doing it.

    The same can be said regarding inifidelity. It's a peice of **** action. It is within one's rights to do it, but that doesn't mean doing it doesn't make one a scumbag peice of ****.

    Freedom's a bitch. Assholes deserve the same freedoms as non-assholes. True freedom only comes when one has choices. I'm free to cheat on my wife, but that makes my fidelity something special. Making infidelity a crime only weakens the honor of staying faithful. If a person requires coercement to remain faithful, that person is a peice of **** anyways. The partner in that situation can never know if the fidelity is real or coerced.

    Too often we look to the outside to enforce that which we should be doing anyways. Making infidelity illegal is a dishonor to those who actually have morality. You cannot force morality upon another because morality is conscience. If we make infidelity illegal, what we are doing is not teaching people that it is immoral or wrong to cheat, we are telling them it is wrong and tellign them that they must behave as we have decreed.

    They may act faithful because of this coercive technique, but they are just as morally bankrupt as they were before. They still will see nothing inherently wrong with infidelity.

    The argument about ramifications for immoral behavior is bunk because this person sees the bahavior as moral. Anyone who is on the fringes regarding anaction and they are only held back by the chance for incarcerration are just as morally bankrupt as the person who is not held back by this prospect.

    They BOTH feel that the action is not wrong, it's just that one of them is frightened by consequences of said action while the other isn't.

    And the selfish type of person who feels that infidelity is perfectly alright will still be a selfish person who's selfish behavior will manifest in other ways.

    Clearly, there are currently ramifications for infidelity. You harm the other person. If someone is heedless of their partners feelings in this situation, they will be heedless of those feelings in so many other situations. What difference is theior in making it illegal when the truth of the matter is, just by the fact that they don't find infidelity inherently wrong, they are already a ****ty spouse. Just for the view they have.

    Acting on that view changes nothing. The simple existence of that view is enough to make someone a bad spouse.

    Unless they have always been honest with their partner and let the partner know that they hold these views. If they do that, then there is nothing morally wrong with their views or any future infidelities. The issue is not the infidelity, it's the lying and deceit that it entails. The lying and deceitful spouse wil lbe a lying ad deceitful whether infidelity is legal or not.

    The only logical reason to criminalize infidelity is to exact revenge for the injured party. It does not increase morality. It does not make the marginal spouse a better spouse. It simply exacts revenge. But that is not the purpose of government. That is not the purpose of law.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    I noticed that Zeebra posted this poll and then disappeared for about 9 freaking pages and didn't answer my question either. What's the matter, lose interest in the topic?
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Bitches will be bitches ,and the law says you can`t hit them.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Infedelity is not required for a valid marriage nor does it automatically end up in divorce. There are open marriages and swinger couples. There are people who remain married after infedility. It's up to the parties to decide if they should divorce over it. A judge can't file for divorce. Now imagine if a third party reported infidelity and one spouse went to jail while the other had no intention of divorcing.
    Just like any contract, either party can choose to tolerate a breech of terms.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I noticed that Zeebra posted this poll and then disappeared for about 9 freaking pages and didn't answer my question either. What's the matter, lose interest in the topic?
    Hot topic for most of us. Jail no. Financial responsibility for any AND ALL expenses resulting from the adultry....big `yes vote` here. Judges , lawyers, homes, childrens lives, and then some, are the cost of some turd getting laid. Boy whore, Girl whore, either way we need to stop devideing assets and start passing the financial cost on to the one who brought it on. All you deadbeat lawyers just shut the f**k on this one.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I've been cheated on, big whoop. Sucks. You live... unless of course you off yourself.

    But let's pretend I haven't been in the situation. Let's pretend I'm ignorant of the pain caused by inidelity. I can tell you with 100% surety that I would NEVER commit suicide over something like that.

    I'm not that much of a selfish peice of ****. Suicide is the ULTIMATE selfish behavior. It is being so invested in your own pain that you are completely heedless of the ramifications and pain that that action will cause to those that love you.

    Having far too much expereince with suicides and suicide attempts in my life is one of the main reasons why I am totally disgusted by those who do it. I can say I would never commit suicide in ANY circumstances outside of hastening my own demise due to terminal illness. In that situation, though, I would discuss the issue with those I love and if they would have any problems with it, I would not do it.

    I'll take the pain and agony upon myself for their sake.

    If someone offs themself because thier spouse cheated, they have committed a FAR more eggregious act than the cheater did. They haven't just harmed one person. They've done damage to everyone who has any emotional feelings towards them. That person's mother, father, grandparents, siblings, cousins, children, and friends will be forced to deal with the terrible consequences of that persons selfishness.

    And unlike infidelity, suicide is not something that can be gotten over. NOTHING can be done to make things better. You never get over the pain of a loved one commiting suicide, regardless of their reasons for it.

    If someone gets cheated on, I have pity for them. I honestly do. It sucks. I know exactly how much it sucks. If they decide to commit suicide over it, I have total and complete disdain for them. Any pity I might have felt for them is thrown completely out the window because they are selfish animals unworthy of my pity.

    Admittedly, suicide is not an issue where I act totally rationally. I'm way too overly emotional on the issue because of my experiences with it. It is within a person's right to kill themselves, in my opinion, but should they do it, they are peices of **** on par with murderers in my eyes. Just because onehas a right to do something doesn't mean they aren't the scum of the earth for doing it.

    The same can be said regarding inifidelity. It's a peice of **** action. It is within one's rights to do it, but that doesn't mean doing it doesn't make one a scumbag peice of ****.

    Freedom's a bitch. Assholes deserve the same freedoms as non-assholes. True freedom only comes when one has choices. I'm free to cheat on my wife, but that makes my fidelity something special. Making infidelity a crime only weakens the honor of staying faithful. If a person requires coercement to remain faithful, that person is a peice of **** anyways. The partner in that situation can never know if the fidelity is real or coerced.

    Too often we look to the outside to enforce that which we should be doing anyways. Making infidelity illegal is a dishonor to those who actually have morality. You cannot force morality upon another because morality is conscience. If we make infidelity illegal, what we are doing is not teaching people that it is immoral or wrong to cheat, we are telling them it is wrong and tellign them that they must behave as we have decreed.

    They may act faithful because of this coercive technique, but they are just as morally bankrupt as they were before. They still will see nothing inherently wrong with infidelity.

    The argument about ramifications for immoral behavior is bunk because this person sees the bahavior as moral. Anyone who is on the fringes regarding anaction and they are only held back by the chance for incarcerration are just as morally bankrupt as the person who is not held back by this prospect.

    They BOTH feel that the action is not wrong, it's just that one of them is frightened by consequences of said action while the other isn't.

    And the selfish type of person who feels that infidelity is perfectly alright will still be a selfish person who's selfish behavior will manifest in other ways.

    Clearly, there are currently ramifications for infidelity. You harm the other person. If someone is heedless of their partners feelings in this situation, they will be heedless of those feelings in so many other situations. What difference is theior in making it illegal when the truth of the matter is, just by the fact that they don't find infidelity inherently wrong, they are already a ****ty spouse. Just for the view they have.

    Acting on that view changes nothing. The simple existence of that view is enough to make someone a bad spouse.

    Unless they have always been honest with their partner and let the partner know that they hold these views. If they do that, then there is nothing morally wrong with their views or any future infidelities. The issue is not the infidelity, it's the lying and deceit that it entails. The lying and deceitful spouse wil lbe a lying ad deceitful whether infidelity is legal or not.

    The only logical reason to criminalize infidelity is to exact revenge for the injured party. It does not increase morality. It does not make the marginal spouse a better spouse. It simply exacts revenge. But that is not the purpose of government. That is not the purpose of law.
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