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  • Yes, jailtime.

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  • Yah, first fine, then jail, mild jail time.

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  • Hmm.. Perhaps..

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    With pedophilia, there is a victim. It's not so much retribution as it is isolating them from society for society's safety.

    Cheaters aren't a danger to society.
    Thanks for your answer but it wasn't an answer to my question. Someone upthread posited that the introduction of judgment and punishment would be enough to modify the behavior of some spouses who were on the verge of committing adultery. Someone else, possibly you, said that such laws would have no effect.

    I imagine that there exist borderline pedophiles who don't even interact with children in order to avoid creating temptation which could be acted upon BECAUSE they don't want to face the risk of punishment. However, if we removed that risk of punishment, then I imagine that some of these borderline pedophiles would indeed move to act on their impulses.

    Do you disagree? Why would human decision making be different with respect to adultery than any other area where consequences have to be weighed before action is taken?

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Thanks for your answer but it wasn't an answer to my question. Someone upthread posited that the introduction of judgment and punishment would be enough to modify the behavior of some spouses who were on the verge of committing adultery. Someone else, possibly you, said that such laws would have no effect.

    I imagine that there exist borderline pedophiles who don't even interact with children in order to avoid creating temptation which could be acted upon BECAUSE they don't want to face the risk of punishment. However, if we removed that risk of punishment, then I imagine that some of these borderline pedophiles would indeed move to act on their impulses.

    Do you disagree? Why would human decision making be different with respect to adultery than any other area where consequences have to be weighed before action is taken?
    You can imagine that they exist. That doesn't make it so. People who commit compulsive crimes don't think that they will get caught or don't even consider the consequences. That's what makes it a compulsion.

    Tell me, how many people who cheat plan on getting caught? How many criminals plan on getting caught?
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What I'm hinting at is we do not criminalize things because they hurt other people's feelings, nor do we criminalize things simply because we find them distasteful. That is, for lack of a better word, dumb.
    I cant think of any other thing in our society today that is ahead of on a list of things that should be criminalize, than adultery, and I can think a lot of things that is less justifiably illegal than adultery.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You can imagine that they exist. That doesn't make it so. People who commit compulsive crimes don't think that they will get caught or don't even consider the consequences. That's what makes it a compulsion.

    Tell me, how many people who cheat plan on getting caught? How many criminals plan on getting caught?
    Murder is also part of human nature, same as sex and indirectly cheating. That would not justify murder as legal, nor general violence, which can also be compulsive behavior and natural to humans.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Murder is also part of human nature, same as sex and indirectly cheating. That would not justify murder as legal, nor general violence, which can also be compulsive behavior and natural to humans.
    Murderers are locked away to protect society. Society needs no protection from cheaters.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You can imagine that they exist. That doesn't make it so. People who commit compulsive crimes don't think that they will get caught or don't even consider the consequences. That's what makes it a compulsion.
    Are you really staking out the position that compulsion is a binary state, rather than one of degree? Secondly, that people don't modify behavior in response to threats?

    Really? There are alcoholics and non-alcoholics and alcoholics all go on total benders and there is no degree of moderation in alcoholism, so that some alcoholics go on benders only on the weekend, or after work, or on special occasions while other alcoholics refrain from getting drunk by attending programs or avoiding temptation. These folks don't exist. If you're an alcoholic then you're on a permanent bender and the degree to which alcohol affects you is uniform for every alcoholic.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Murderers are locked away to protect society. Society needs no protection from cheaters.
    Yes it does actually need protection from such a horrible act, which is now rather a norm than a rarity.
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Yes it does actually need protection from such a horrible act, which is now rather a norm than a rarity.
    You have got to be kidding me? If someone has sex with other than a spouse, laws are in effect civilly as they should be. No one is physically or financially hurt by cheating. So it should not be a criminal offense.

    I figure you had someone cheat on you, or just have no clue.

    Whats next? The thought police???
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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I cant think of any other thing in our society today that is ahead of on a list of things that should be criminalize, than adultery, and I can think a lot of things that is less justifiably illegal than adultery.
    Really? You can't think of any other thing worse than someone cheating on someone else? Seriously?

    Well let me tell ya hon. I CAN. And have experienced actual criminal assaults that were far worse than anyone EVER cheating on me. I would take being cheated on a dozen times to the physical assaults I suffered. Somehow, I'm betting that most rape, molestation, torture, beating, vicious assault, attempted murder and murder victims would too. In fact, I'm quite willing to bank on it.

    Essentially you want to make lying illegal and punishable by jailtime. Because that's all cheating is. Pretty laughable that you find simply lying to someone to be so much more atrocious than physical acts of violence. I'd go as far as to say insulting, actually.

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    Re: Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Are you really staking out the position that compulsion is a binary state, rather than one of degree? Secondly, that people don't modify behavior in response to threats?

    Really? There are alcoholics and non-alcoholics and alcoholics all go on total benders and there is no degree of moderation in alcoholism, so that some alcoholics go on benders only on the weekend, or after work, or on special occasions while other alcoholics refrain from getting drunk by attending programs or avoiding temptation. These folks don't exist. If you're an alcoholic then you're on a permanent bender and the degree to which alcohol affects you is uniform for every alcoholic.
    You ignored the fact that people don't plan on getting caught. They think the consequences don't apply to them.

    Not all alcoholics are the same. Professionals classify them as level 1, levels 2 a and b, and level 3. It's a progressive disease. They don't black out every time they drink. There are skid row alcoholics and there are functional alcoholics. While they do all have common traits where they are unable to control their drinking once they have that first drink, they are not all carbon copies of each other.
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