Page 1 of 6 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 55

Thread: Why can't Republicans or Conservatives get behind Alan Keyes?

  1. #1
    Sage
    Hatuey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    38,507

    Why can't Republicans or Conservatives get behind Alan Keyes?

    Education :

    Keyes was invited[citation needed] to continue his studies at Harvard University, where he resided at Winthrop House, and completed his B.A. degree in government affairs in 1972. During his first year of graduate school, Keyes's roommate was Bill Kristol. In 1988, Kristol ran Keyes' unsuccessful U.S. Senate campaign in Maryland.[7]

    Keyes earned his PhD in government affairs from Harvard University in 1979, having written a dissertation on Alexander Hamilton and constitutional theory, under Harvey C. Mansfield.[8] Due to student deferments and a high draft number, Keyes was not drafted to serve in Vietnam.
    Patriotism :

    Keyes and his family were staunch supporters of the war in Vietnam, where his father served two tours of duty.[9] Keyes was criticized by opponents of the war in Vietnam, but he says he was supporting his father and his brothers, who were also fighting in the war.[10]
    Work Resume :

    Alan Lee Keyes (born August 7, 1950) is an American Christian Nationalist[citation needed] political activist, author, and former diplomat, and perennial candidate for public office.[1][2] He ran for President of the United States in 1996, 2000, and 2008, and was a Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate in 1988, 1992, and 2004. Keyes served in the U.S. Foreign Service, was appointed Ambassador to the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations under President Ronald Reagan, and served as Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs from 1985 to 1987.
    Additionally, Keyes fought against an Arab-backed UN resolution calling for investigation of Israeli settlements. The measure passed 83-2, with 15 abstentions and only Israel and the U.S. voting against it.[27] Reagan again appointed Keyes to represent the U.S. at the 1985 Women's Conference in Nairobi.[26]
    In 1988, Keyes was drafted by the Maryland Republican Party to run for the United States Senate, and received 38 percent of the vote against incumbent Democrat Paul Sarbanes, who ended up winning the election.[29] Four years later, he ran again for the Senate from Maryland, coming in first in a field of 13 candidates in the Republican primary. Against Democrat Barbara Mikulski, he received 29 percent in the general election.[30]
    Political Stances :

    Keyes, who opposes abortion in all cases,[45] said in a September 7, 2004 news conference that Jesus Christ would not vote for Obama[46] because of votes that Obama, a member of the Illinois Senate Judiciary committee and a lecturer in constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School, cast in 2001 against pro-life legislation (a package of three bills: SB1093, SB1094, SB1095)
    he said that Obama's position on moral issues regarding life and the family had crossed that line. "I'm supposed to make a call that represents the congratulations toward the triumph of that which I believe ultimately stands for ... a culture evil enough to destroy the very soul and heart of my country? I cannot do this. And I will not make a false gesture," Keyes said.[49]
    During the campaign, Keyes outlined an alternative to reparations for slavery. His specific suggestion was that, for a period of one or two generations, African-Americans who were descended from slaves would be exempt from the federal income tax (though not from the FICA tax that supports Social Security).[56] Keyes said the experiment "would become a demonstration project for what I believe needs to be done for the whole country, which is to get rid of the income tax."[57]
    So Keyes is clearly not a liberal. He's a Conservative. So why can't he get the support of other conservatives? Is it because he doesn't know how Washington works? His experience? Why can't a clear as day conservative(pun intended) get the support of his fellow conservatives and Republicans? Is it because the majority of Republican voters would not vote for him? And if they won't vote him why is it? Is it because he's not conservative enough? Experienced enough? Discuss.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 02-01-09 at 07:55 PM.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

  2. #2
    cookies crumble
    ARealConservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    13,779

    Re: Why can't Republicans or Conservatives get behind Alan Keyes?

    because he is a scary theocrat

  3. #3
    Enemy Combatant
    Kandahar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Last Seen
    10-15-13 @ 06:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    20,688

    Re: Why can't Republicans or Conservatives get behind Alan Keyes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Education :



    Patriotism :



    Work Resume :







    Political Stances :







    So Keyes is clearly not a liberal. He's a Conservative. So why can't he get the support of other conservatives? Is it because he doesn't know how Washington works? His experience? Why can't a clear as day conservative(pun intended) get the support of his fellow conservatives and Republicans? Is it because the majority of Republican voters would not vote for him? And if they won't vote him why is it? Is it because he's not conservative enough? Experienced enough? Discuss.
    The same reason most mainstream conservatives don't support Ron Paul, or most mainstream liberals don't support Ralph Nader: Because they're lunatics. Although Keyes is even more insane than either of those two.
    Last edited by Kandahar; 02-01-09 at 09:41 PM.
    Are you coming to bed?
    I can't. This is important.
    What?
    Someone is WRONG on the internet! -XKCD

  4. #4
    Sage
    jamesrage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A place where common sense exists
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    29,192

    Re: Why can't Republicans or Conservatives get behind Alan Keyes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Education :



    Patriotism :



    Work Resume :







    Political Stances :







    So Keyes is clearly not a liberal. He's a Conservative. So why can't he get the support of other conservatives? Is it because he doesn't know how Washington works? His experience? Why can't a clear as day conservative(pun intended) get the support of his fellow conservatives and Republicans? Is it because the majority of Republican voters would not vote for him? And if they won't vote him why is it? Is it because he's not conservative enough? Experienced enough? Discuss.
    Is this the same Alan Keyes that called Hillary Clinton a carpetbagger and then tried to be a carpet bagger himself?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

  5. #5
    Girthless
    RightinNYC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    New York, NY
    Last Seen
    01-23-11 @ 10:56 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    25,894

    Re: Why can't Republicans or Conservatives get behind Alan Keyes?

    Are you being serious, and implying that Reps/Cons are racists for not supporting a black conservative, or are you just starting an incredibly timely and topical poll to remind us all that Alan Keyes is ****ing insane?
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

  6. #6
    Girthless
    RightinNYC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    New York, NY
    Last Seen
    01-23-11 @ 10:56 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    25,894

    Re: Why can't Republicans or Conservatives get behind Alan Keyes?

    Also: Huge lol's at his wikipicture:

    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

  7. #7
    Dorset Patriot
    Wessexman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Sydney, Australia(but my heart is back in Dorset.)
    Last Seen
    04-04-14 @ 01:37 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    8,233

    Re: Why can't Republicans or Conservatives get behind Alan Keyes?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    because he is a scary theocrat
    I doubt it. Let's not misuse yet another political term, I know that there are liberals already who try and claim anything but complete seperation of church and state is a theocracy but let's not give such idiocy and inaccuracy any inroads.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

  8. #8
    cookies crumble
    ARealConservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    13,779

    Re: Why can't Republicans or Conservatives get behind Alan Keyes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I doubt it. Let's not misuse yet another political term, I know that there are liberals already who try and claim anything but complete seperation of church and state is a theocracy but let's not give such idiocy and inaccuracy any inroads.
    I've listened to him enough to call a spade a spade.

  9. #9
    Dorset Patriot
    Wessexman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Sydney, Australia(but my heart is back in Dorset.)
    Last Seen
    04-04-14 @ 01:37 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    8,233

    Re: Why can't Republicans or Conservatives get behind Alan Keyes?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I've listened to him enough to call a spade a spade.
    Does he call for church officials actually running the state such as what happened in the Papal States? If he doesn't call for that or something very close he is not a theocrat.

    England for instance has never been a theocracy despite never having a seperation of church and state and often having quite a bit cross fertilisation between the two realms because that is not what theocracy means. Theocracy means literal rule by the priesthood or something very close.

    What you've done is listened to him enough to call a spade an earthmover most probably.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

  10. #10
    cookies crumble
    ARealConservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    13,779

    Re: Why can't Republicans or Conservatives get behind Alan Keyes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Does he call for church officials actually running the state such as what happened in the Papal States? If he doesn't call for that or something very close he is not a theocrat.

    England for instance has never been a theocracy despite never having a seperation of church and state and often having quite a bit cross fertilisation between the two realms because that is not what theocracy means. Theocracy means literal rule by the priesthood or something very close.

    What you've done is listened to him enough to call a spade an earthmover most probably.
    Quote Originally Posted by Keyes
    “There might be states in which they require a religious test or oath of office,” he said. “There might be states in which they have established churches where subventions are given to schools and so forth to teach the Bible. There might be places where you and I might disagree with the religion some folks want to put in place over their ... community.”
    Just because the original constitution allows for states to operate as a theocracy doesn't mean I would like it. He wants theocracy at the state level which makes him a theocrat

Page 1 of 6 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •