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    Re: Was the United States founded on Christian principles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Forgot about that one.

    Good call.
    Yeah, the God haters always pull this one out.
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    Re: Was the United States founded on Christian principles?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, the God haters always pull this one out.
    God haters?

    Who always pull this one out?
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    Re: Was the United States founded on Christian principles?

    You know I wish God was just left out of the Constitution and our legal documents so that those who believe it is one nation under a certain God can do so, and those who believe it is not a nation under God can do so.

    If there is no mention of the Christian God, then Christians can take it as a given and non-Christians can take it literally. Works evenly for everybody.


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    Re: Was the United States founded on Christian principles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    As if he needed to
    What....you think that you speak for him? I think that if the issues were important to Jesus Christ he would have spoken about them.
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    Re: Was the United States founded on Christian principles?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I think that if the issues were important to Jesus Christ he would have spoken about them.
    What....you think that you speak for him?

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    Re: Was the United States founded on Christian principles?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What....you think that you speak for him? I think that if the issues were important to Jesus Christ he would have spoken about them.
    I don't think Jesus lived in the time where cared about embryonic stem cell research and nuclear warfare.....
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    Re: Was the United States founded on Christian principles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    You know I wish God was just left out of the Constitution and our legal documents so that those who believe it is one nation under a certain God can do so, and those who believe it is not a nation under God can do so.

    If there is no mention of the Christian God, then Christians can take it as a given and non-Christians can take it literally. Works evenly for everybody.
    When modern people look at the Founding Fathers and see a group of white people, they claim racism; when they note that everyone present is a man, they cry sexism; when it becomes known that they were all Christian, they plead relgious intolerance and oppression.

    An educated observer looks at the Founding Fathers and sees a group of people who cling together for survival, not to dissimilar to siding up in a prison gang for the same reason.

    Ever wonder why prison gangs are always race based? I'll give you a clue: It has nothing to do with racial hatred or racial pride, yet is the same reason why all of our Founding Fathers are 1. White, 2. Men and 3. Christian.

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    Re: Was the United States founded on Christian principles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    When modern people look at the Founding Fathers and see a group of white people, they claim racism; when they note that everyone present is a man, they cry sexism; when it becomes known that they were all Christian, they plead relgious intolerance and oppression.

    An educated observer looks at the Founding Fathers and sees a group of people who cling together for survival, not to dissimilar to siding up in a prison gang for the same reason.

    Ever wonder why prison gangs are always race based? I'll give you a clue: It has nothing to do with racial hatred or racial pride, yet is the same reason why all of our Founding Fathers are 1. White, 2. Men and 3. Christian.

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    I refuse to believe that, I still think our founding fathers did not create our nation based on Christian principles. They are principles that are purely democratic, universal, and fair.

    But you ask, universal? What about non-religion?

    Now, I do believe they did found our country based on religious principles, as the nation is "under God," but not a specific God. I suppose it is that way because atheism was not as big then as it is now.
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    Re: Was the United States founded on Christian principles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    I refuse to believe that, I still think our founding fathers did not create our nation based on Christian principles. They are principles that are purely democratic, universal, and fair.
    As long as we're clear that that's only your personal belief, I take no issue with your contribution here because I don't take issue with beliefs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    But you ask, universal? What about non-religion?
    Every time an atheist says 'it's wrong to murder' they are evidencing the universality the moral core every healthy human shares.....and the truth of scripture, ironicly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Now, I do believe they did found our country based on religious principles, as the nation is "under God," but not a specific God. I suppose it is that way because atheism was not as big then as it is now.
    What can I say to that?

    If my previous sources have no voice with you, then I have no reason to assume that additional sources could convince you either.
    Last edited by Jerry; 01-30-09 at 10:22 PM.

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