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Gambling

Should gambling be legal?


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Should it be legal?

This idea sparked by Kandahar's Indian thread.
 
I am fine with it being legal... Just do not expect me to partake ;)
 
I think it should be legal. One point I would raise though is that it would be a huge hit against Indians since it is one of the few things they have to raise their standard of living. Doesn't necessarily make it right for the government to grant them a monopoly however.
 
Yes it should If an adult wants to gamble it should be a right under the pursuit of happiness. As long as it does not infringe on someone else's rights.
 
To have gambling illegal would be about as stupid as a law against alcohol or marijuana or tobacco or prostitution...
But no-one ever said that our legislatures were brilliant minds..
Tax it, control it, locally.
Keep the Feds out of it.
 
:doh: I misread "legal" for "illegal".

I see no compelling reason why gambeling should be illegal. Though, I believe it is within a state's right to determine its legality.
 
I think it should be legal. One point I would raise though is that it would be a huge hit against Indians since it is one of the few things they have to raise their standard of living. Doesn't necessarily make it right for the government to grant them a monopoly however.

I couldn't agree with you more.

Your point is valid regarding the hit against the tribes. I have no doubt they would feel the pinch as new casinos opened. I think it would level out though and still provide a lot of income as well as a lot more jobs for many other people.

We have casinos here, but they're all under the no smoking law and they can't have slots. Those are two big problems for a casino. If they were granted the same freedom that the tribal casinos have, I think it would be a good thing for a lot of people.

I'm hoping to see some changes on the ballot next time around.
 
I can't believe I actually agree with the good Reverend.
 
I couldn't agree with you more.

Your point is valid regarding the hit against the tribes. I have no doubt they would feel the pinch as new casinos opened. I think it would level out though and still provide a lot of income as well as a lot more jobs for many other people.

We have casinos here, but they're all under the no smoking law and they can't have slots. Those are two big problems for a casino. If they were granted the same freedom that the tribal casinos have, I think it would be a good thing for a lot of people.

I'm hoping to see some changes on the ballot next time around.

Seriously though, the casinos not on reservations here have hardly any draw.

If I go to the Tulalip Casino on the Tulalip Reservation, I can smoke, play any game I want (As there are no restrictions) and that to me is a deal maker/breaker.
 
Seriously though, the casinos not on reservations here have hardly any draw.

If I go to the Tulalip Casino on the Tulalip Reservation, I can smoke, play any game I want (As there are no restrictions) and that to me is a deal maker/breaker.

Gary and I are planning to go to the Tulalip next month for one night. When we go to the casino now, it's usually the Emerald Queen and for the same reasons you mentioned.....smoking, slots.

It's going to be fun to be able to spend the night at the casino and have a drink. A little mini vacation :cool:

You live up north?
 
Gary and I are planning to go to the Tulalip next month for one night. When we go to the casino now, it's usually the Emerald Queen and for the same reasons you mentioned.....smoking, slots.

It's going to be fun to be able to spend the night at the casino and have a drink. A little mini vacation :cool:

You live up north?

Everett.

I think it's funny though, Wall-Mart built on the reservation (Right next to the tulalip casino) instead of right across the freeway so it wouldnt have to pay taxes to the state... it instead just shares profit with the tribe.

Needless to say I Go to the wall-mart in Lynnwood/Everett instead :lol:
 
I think it's just like anything else in life, like alcohol.
Alcohol can be dangerously abused, and it turns families apart, and can incur severe damages. BUT...its still so called 'good' in 'moderation'...
Also, there is always that Surgeon warning.

I think if gambling places and casionos had some sort of contract or sign in the front that said that the " winning chances are small ['X' percent] and gambling is not devised to make $, but it is meant to have fun"
 
I think it's just like anything else in life, like alcohol.
Alcohol can be dangerously abused, and it turns families apart, and can incur severe damages. BUT...its still so called 'good' in 'moderation'...
Also, there is always that Surgeon warning.

I think if gambling places and casionos had some sort of contract or sign in the front that said that the " winning chances are small ['X' percent] and gambling is not devised to make $, but it is meant to have fun"

I don't know about all of the casinos but at the Emerald Queen there's a lot of signage on the inside of the bathroom stall door. It's one of two things:

If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, call #####

and

If you or someone you know is being abused, call #######


I was surprised and happy to see that.
 
I don't know about all of the casinos but at the Emerald Queen there's a lot of signage on the inside of the bathroom stall door. It's one of two things:

If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, call #####

and

If you or someone you know is being abused, call #######


I was surprised and happy to see that.

Shoot, on the mens bathroom stall it's

If you or someone you know wants to **** tonight, call ##########

Or a pentagram or some other silly symbol.
 
I can't believe I actually agree with the good Reverend.


Yeah, sometimes I can't believe its me either. that glowing giddy feeling? It's called being right agree with me more and this is what you can expect. :mrgreen:


Nope. There are those of us with mad poker skillz too.


See post #2 of this thread.
 
No. The social costs are exorbitant and it's effectively a tax on the dreams of the poor.

Plus Utah is kicking *** without it. :2wave:
 
No. The social costs are exorbitant and it's effectively a tax on the dreams of the poor.

Plus Utah is kicking *** without it. :2wave:

And here all this time I thought people were able to make their own choice to gamble.
 
And here all this time I thought people were able to make their own choice to gamble.

Not when I have to pay increased taxes to deal with the spikes in crime, pollution, welfare, child neglect and a whole other host of social ills that inevitably follow legalized gambling.

Want to throw your life away? Sure.

Want to throw your life away and make everyone else pay for the damage? Hell No.
 
Not when I have to pay increased taxes to deal with the spikes in crime, pollution, welfare, child neglect and a whole other host of social ills that inevitably follow legalized gambling.

Want to throw your life away? Sure.

Want to throw your life away and make everyone else pay for the damage? Hell No.

One could take your philosophy to the extreme and argue that any action that is detrimental to the welfare of the state should be illegal. The potential for abuse appears limitless.
 
One could take your philosophy to the extreme and argue that any action that is detrimental to the welfare of the state should be illegal.

And we could do the same to the opposite saying that everyone should be free to do anything and everyone else should pay for it.

The potential for abuse appears limitless.

See above.

Gambling has a long list of social ills that always follow it wherever it goes. Crime always spikes. Child Neglect spikes. Welfare spikes. And they happen in relevant amounts.

Gambling is not the answer. If states want to allow it then those states should take responsibility for the social ills that follow. They can't have it and then cry about the **** storm that follows.

The problems of gambling are well known.
 
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