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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    Just wanted to add one thing, about France helping the US during the revolution: It bankrupted them, and within a decade of this foreign escapade the heads of their govt were removed, literally and figuratively.

    Hmmm...World Power going broke because of foreign adventurism. Where have I heard that before?
    Quoted for truth.

    Ron Paul is a good and honest man who believes in the country and it's Constitution. Something the big 2 political party's seem to ignore at every turn.

    Unlike a large percentage of political officials from local on up to federal government. Ron Paul actually listens to his constituents and preforms in the best interest of the people rather than special interest or government interests alone.
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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    If the originators of non-interventionism had been TRUE interventionists then they wouldn't have accepted the help from France and by extension Spain simply because well what exactly were France and more specifically Spain doing if not engaging in interventionism themselves by helping liberate America? Seems to me like their actions spoke much, much louder then their words.
    I'm going to assume you meant to say this...

    If the originators of non-interventionism had been TRUE non-interventionists
    If not, please clarify what you meant. Now to the point...

    Thomas Jefferson and George Washington CREATED the philosophy of non-interventionism, therefore you nor Wikipedia gets to tell them was TRUE non-interventionism means. If Thomas Jefferson and George Washington say that making treaties during war-time is agreeable to the precepts of non-interventionism then it is agreeable. No amount of Wiki references or semantic word-play is going to change that immutable fact. Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and Ron Paul are all non-interventionists, period.

    Go for it? I honestly don't care what you do.
    It seems you are purposely trying to miss the point. It is inaccurate for you to refer to Ron Paul as an "isolationist who doesn't advocate protectionism", just as it is inaccurate for me to refer to Barack Obama as a "Communist who doesn't advocate the collective ownership of land."

    In order to be considered an isolationist one MUST advocate economic protectionism just as one MUST advocate the collective ownership of land in order to be considered a Communist. You are simply engaging in semantics in order to misrepresent Dr. Paul's foreign policy position and frankly such a tactic is beneath you. Instead of using abstract and overly exotic terms to refer to Ron Paul and his policies why don't you simply refer to them as what they are...non-interventionism.

    And NATO, the UN set the parameters under which they should help us and make sure one side doesn't try to screw the other.
    I don't follow.

    Really? How? By getting every country in the world together, just like with the UN, and getting them to agree on aviation safety, testing phases( in the way the UN facilitates) etc etc? - Seems like you're making an argument FOR the UN.
    Countries don't adhere to UN regulations simply by virtue of their membership. Countries act out of rational self-interest, and if a policy is proposed that provides a potential benefit to them they will implement it regardless of internationalized government. We needn't be members of the UN in order for a country to see a potential benefit in trading with us. We needn't be a member of NATO in order for another country to see a potential benefit in assisting us militarily. What I'm trying to figure out is this: what purpose or benefit is derived from our membership in the UN that could not feasibly be derived otherwise?

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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    arguing with libertarians is like pounding your head into a wall.

    I'll let the American Conservative do it for me...

    The American Conservative -- Marxism of the Right
    After reading this article its quite obvious that the writer is either a Paleoconservative, a Social/Religious Conservative or a Neoconservative. All are the primary right wing enemies of Libertarianism. All three believe the government should legislate morality based on their moral codes while Libertarianism fully believes the government has no right to tell individuals how to live as long as no one else's rights are being violated. For this guy to call Libertarianism Communist shows nothing but a desperate and extremely weak argument. It wouldn't surprise me if this writer is still a Cold Warrior.
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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    After reading this article its quite obvious that the writer is either a Paleoconservative, a Social/Religious Conservative or a Neoconservative. All are the primary right wing enemies of Libertarianism. All three believe the government should legislate morality based on their moral codes while Libertarianism fully believes the government has no right to tell individuals how to live as long as no one else's rights are being violated. For this guy to call Libertarianism Communist shows nothing but a desperate and extremely weak argument. It wouldn't surprise me if this writer is still a Cold Warrior.
    LOL. Libertarians are being compared to communists?

    WOW!
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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    LOL. Libertarians are being compared to communists?

    WOW!
    Its a new one IMO. We have been called border line anarchists, closeted liberals, and to quote neo-con pansy Johan Goldberg (Closeted gays who want to smoke pot).
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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Its a new one IMO. We have been called border line anarchists, closeted liberals, and to quote neo-con pansy Johan Goldberg (Closeted gays who want to smoke pot).
    Stabs are all good fun.. I just can't fathom what would bring someone to call a true libertarian a "communist".

    That is just too funny.
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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Stabs are all good fun.. I just can't fathom what would bring someone to call a true libertarian a "communist".

    That is just too funny.
    Isn't communism where heathcare, money, etc. is regulated and spread by the government? Isn't this what extreme liberal want? More government regulations and handouts? PUT 2 & 2 TOGETHER COMMIES...oops I meant Liberals....

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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Ron Paul isn't insane but he has a humongous uphill battle to fight.

    He is really the only one screaming to a deaf audience that they must reign in spending and expansion. In our majority is right society people will think he is crazy.

    Some of his supporters like the 9-11 truthers and the I only care about legalizing drugs crowd are bad for his image. It paints the rest of us as the same.
    The media didn`t help his image much either. Hmm,for that matter the media didn`t help anyone elses immage ,either,with one exception....

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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    After reading this article its quite obvious that the writer is either a Paleoconservative, a Social/Religious Conservative or a Neoconservative. All are the primary right wing enemies of Libertarianism. All three believe the government should legislate morality based on their moral codes while Libertarianism fully believes the government has no right to tell individuals how to live as long as no one else's rights are being violated. For this guy to call Libertarianism Communist shows nothing but a desperate and extremely weak argument. It wouldn't surprise me if this writer is still a Cold Warrior.
    He's a Neocon, look at the website, it's the American Conservative. He's a total Neocon nazi and a bad man, but it still doesn't negate his argument.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Isn't communism where heathcare, money, etc. is regulated and spread by the government? Isn't this what extreme liberal want? More government regulations and handouts? PUT 2 & 2 TOGETHER COMMIES...oops I meant Liberals....
    We are talking about ---> Libertarians <--- Try to keep up chap!
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    Don't apologize to me over that silly ****. I could care less if I can see the dust or not.
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