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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Ron Paul isn't insane but he has a humongous uphill battle to fight.

    He is really the only one screaming to a deaf audience that they must reign in spending and expansion. In our majority is right society people will think he is crazy.

    Some of his supporters like the 9-11 truthers and the I only care about legalizing drugs crowd are bad for his image. It paints the rest of us as the same.
    Look at all the **** he proposes and then votes against knowing they will pass anyway.
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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Look at all the **** he proposes and then votes against knowing they will pass anyway.
    For example?
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Paul might not be insane, but his most outspoken supporters definitely are.
    Last edited by Dav; 04-10-09 at 01:00 PM.

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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    Which is is, in this country, something the right is more guilty of.

    Any democrat who suggests a mixed economy is branded a socialist. It's ludicrous.
    the very same poster that refers to us as isolationists doesn't like being called a socialist.

    how ****ing rich!

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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    For example?
    He is likely referring to how pork spending is implemented. his constituents inform him of what they would like to see their tax dollars spent on, he forwards their request to the appropriations committee, then votes against the nondiscretionary spending bill they ultimately settle on.

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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Paul might not be insane, but his most outspoken supporters definitely are.
    his outspoken critics are the nut jobs.

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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    his outspoken critics are the nut jobs.
    Gotcha. Thinking that we shouldn't interfere in other countries, even to prevent a genocide, is being a nut job.
    Thinking that war is always bad, even in self-defense, is being a nut job
    Thinking that maybe, on some occasions, the government could be used to help people, is being a nut job.

    The weird thing is I'm sort of libertarian-leaning, but I can't stand the obnoxiousness and arrogance of some of Paul's most dedicated supporters. He's not the freaking Messiah.

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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Gotcha. Thinking that we shouldn't interfere in other countries, even to prevent a genocide, is being a nut job.
    Thinking that war is always bad, even in self-defense, is being a nut job
    Thinking that maybe, on some occasions, the government could be used to help people, is being a nut job.

    The weird thing is I'm sort of libertarian-leaning, but I can't stand the obnoxiousness and arrogance of some of Paul's most dedicated supporters. He's not the freaking Messiah.
    you, as a free individual can interfere anywhere you wish.

    What is nuts is thinking you can transfer authoritative power to the government that you don't actually have yourself. When I sign up to protect and serve this country, it doesn't mean you can stick your bleeding heart in to the issue and compel me to defend some other country that you are sympathetic to.

    that's what is nuts comrade.

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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Gotcha. Thinking that we shouldn't interfere in other countries, even to prevent a genocide, is being a nut job.
    I noticed you began to reply to my response, then gave up on it.

    I am going to assume for now, you realized how nutty it is to argue that you have the right to force others to fight in far off wars that have nothing to do with protecting this country.

    So for now I will go on to the rest of your misguided post.

    Thinking that war is always bad, even in self-defense, is being a nut job
    Refusing to protect yourself in the face of imminent danger is a sign of being nuts. The problem is, this has nothing to do with Ron Paul's positions, or the position of anybody that supports him as far as I know. You are erecting straw men so that you can easily topple them.

    Thinking that maybe, on some occasions, the government could be used to help people, is being a nut job.
    Hey look, another straw man. How often to you hear Ron Paul wishing to interfere with state and local government? Is it possible that the man simply wants government to act in accordance with the law. How nutty of us to wish for the federal government to focus on protecting individual rights while state and local government (of which I have a greater voice) can be in the business of helping people in need.

    The weird thing is I'm sort of libertarian-leaning, but I can't stand the obnoxiousness and arrogance of some of Paul's most dedicated supporters. He's not the freaking Messiah.
    Another straw man. I don't participate in hero worship, and have no messiah. I'm not even a libertarian, but I am a vocal Ron Paul supporter that you have insulted in this thread with your wide (and ignorant) brush.

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    Re: Is Ron Paul Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I noticed you began to reply to my response, then gave up on it.

    I am going to assume for now, you realized how nutty it is to argue that you have the right to force others to fight in far off wars that have nothing to do with protecting this country.

    So for now I will go on to the rest of your misguided post.
    I gave up because I realized I didn't fully understand your post. Would you mind elaborating?

    Refusing to protect yourself in the face of imminent danger is a sign of being nuts. The problem is, this has nothing to do with Ron Paul's positions, or the position of anybody that supports him as far as I know. You are erecting straw men so that you can easily topple them.
    Ron Paul is a complete non-interventionist. He wants to withdraw from the UN and NATO and stop sending foreign aid to our allies. He doesn't think that we should interfere to stop the genocide in Darfur. I'll reserve judgment as to whether or not these positions are "nutty", but I do not think it is nutty to be strongly against them.

    Hey look, another straw man. How often to you hear Ron Paul wishing to interfere with state and local government? Is it possible that the man simply wants government to act in accordance with the law. How nutty of us to wish for the federal government to focus on protecting individual rights while state and local government (of which I have a greater voice) can be in the business of helping people in need.
    Eh, won't say I'm against that. Actually, I think a lot of his economic policies make some sense, even if they are more extreme than I'd like. But the fact stands that he is more extreme in his position than most people and basically wants to get rid of half of the federal government, so I find nothing nutty about being against his views.

    Another straw man. I don't participate in hero worship, and have no messiah. I'm not even a libertarian, but I am a vocal Ron Paul supporter that you have insulted in this thread with your wide (and ignorant) brush.
    Note how I said "some of Paul's most dedicated supporters", not all of them. The ones who think that people who supported anyone else in the primaries are uneducated morons, that he is the only honest politician in the country, and that his policies will save us all (many of them, from my experience, are also 9/11 truthers). Whether you are among these, I honestly don't know.

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