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    Re: Is Barack Obama a Warmonger?

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    Obama is definitely a warmonger. He is bombing a country that never attacked us.
    Is there something wrong with bombing a country that never attacked us?
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Is Barack Obama a Warmonger?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What the heck are you talking about
    Walleye is talking about Pakistan. Obama authorized drone attacks on two homes there. As far as I know Pakistan never attacked the United States.
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    Re: Is Barack Obama a Warmonger?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Walleye is talking about Pakistan. Obama authorized drone attacks on two homes there. As far as I know Pakistan never attacked the United States.
    http://www.fas.org/man/crs/RL31624.pdf

    And the text of the US-Pakistan Strategic Partnership:

    Deputy Secretary Negroponte and Foreign Minister Qureshi reaffirmed their commitments to a wide-ranging, substantive, and long-term strategic partnership between the United States and Pakistan, which is based on shared values and a common effort to promote enduring peace, security, stability, freedom, and prosperity of Pakistan and of the region. Both sides exchanged views on ways to deepen their bilateral cooperation and to make the Strategic Dialogue more effective and productive.

    The United States and Pakistan both strongly condemned the terrorist attack at the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad, on 20 September. Both Deputy Secretary Negroponte and Foreign Minister Qureshi offered their condolences to the families of all of those lost in the vicious attack. They acknowledged that terrorism and violent extremism pose a common threat to Pakistan, the United States, and the international community.

    The United States affirmed its support for Pakistan's sovereignty, independence, unity, and territorial integrity. The United States is dedicated to providing Pakistan with the training and equipment it needs to fight terrorism, including support to enhance Pakistanís counterinsurgency and counterterrorism capabilities and increased cooperation with Pakistani security forces. Both sides renewed their intention to work together to combat the threat of terrorism and violent extremism by expanding security cooperation, and to work together to develop and modernize the Federally Administered Tribal Areas. Pakistan expressed its appreciation for the $4 million the U.S. has committed for flood relief and for humanitarian assistance to those displaced by fighting in Bajaur.

    During the Strategic Dialogue, the two sides discussed regional and international issues of common interest. The U.S. expressed support for continued dialogue and improved relations between Pakistan and its neighbors. The U.S. expressed support for the resumption of the Jirga process with Afghanistan and for Pakistanís commitment to hold the next Regional Economic Cooperation Conference meeting in Islamabad later this year.

    The Pakistani Government expressed its appreciation for the new Friends of Pakistan initiative, which will help Pakistan face its challenges in the years ahead.

    Building on the August 2008 bilateral Economic Dialogue, both sides reaffirmed their commitment to increased bilateral economic cooperation. Pakistan outlined its economic stabilization measures and reforms to foster economic growth and opportunity. The U.S. expressed support for Pakistan's plan to stabilize its economy and welcomed Pakistan's commitment to implement comprehensive reform measures.

    The U.S. expressed its determination to continue efforts to promote Reconstruction Opportunity Zones legislation, currently pending in Congress. The establishment of such zones would improve stability and security by stimulating jobs, infrastructure and legitimate economic alternatives in underdeveloped areas.

    The two sides emphasized the need for improved regional cooperation and integration in the energy sector. They reaffirmed their commitment to address Pakistanís growing energy needs by expanding technical assistance and promoting investment in Pakistanís energy sector.

    Cooperation in education and science and technology were reviewed, and both resolved to make best efforts to hold Energy and Education Dialogues by the end of the year.

    In keeping with the commitment made by President Bush and Prime Minister Gillani during their July meeting in Washington, the delegations began discussions focused on agricultural cooperation that would help Pakistan strengthen its agricultural sector and enhance its food security.

    The two sides committed to work together to realize their long-term vision of the U.S.-Pakistan Strategic Partnership.

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    Re: Is Barack Obama a Warmonger?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
    Nope.
    Wow. Your post was truly troubling. War does not stop terrorism; it brings terrorism (blowback). It makes our country less safe. How does war bring a high-standard of living? Sadly, war does the exact opposite of your post.
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    American Empire?
    Yes, the American Empire. Itís the imperialism of America at least of our military presence around the world. You might laugh at the idea but, itís not so funny in the countries that are dominated by our military.
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    idea Re: Is Barack Obama a Warmonger?

    I am sorry, but Obama is not a war monger?

    In case you have not paid attention to anything, Obama is trying get some peace.

    For yu Right Wingers who are not fimiliar with this word, this used it a normal word in our language(english)

    I am giving a link to the infoplease.com online dictionary.

    The Word is PEACE


    I don't want any of you right winger to have a heart attack, so you better call 911, so you won't pass away from just the the thought of peace in the definition.


    http://dictionary.infoplease.com/peace


    PEACE

    peace


    Pronunciation: (pēs), [key]
    ón., interj., v., peaced, peacēing.

    ón.
    1. the normal, nonwarring condition of a nation, group of nations, or the world.
    2. (often cap.) an agreement or treaty between warring or antagonistic nations, groups, etc., to end hostilities and abstain from further fighting or antagonism: the Peace of Ryswick.
    3. a state of mutual harmony between people or groups, esp. in personal relations: Try to live in peace with your neighbors.

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    Re: Is Barack Obama a Warmonger?

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    Yes, he is a warmonger just like Bush. Those people were not bothering us. They were probably having a wedding or some sort of innocent social gathering and then that mean Obongo drops bombs on them for no reason at all. Is there something in the water in the White House?
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    Re: Is Barack Obama a Warmonger?

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    Yes, the American Empire. Itís the imperialism of America at least of our military presence around the world. You might laugh at the idea but, itís not so funny in the countries that are dominated by our military.
    You have an ridiculously low threshold of what constitutes imperialism.
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    Re: Is Barack Obama a Warmonger?

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    Yes Obama is a war monger... but is that bad? Nope. It will allow us to continue to engage terrorists abroad and allow us to maintain our high standard of living.
    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    Wow. Your post was truly troubling. War does not stop terrorism; it brings terrorism (blowback). It makes our country less safe. How does war bring a high-standard of living? Sadly, war does the exact opposite of your post.
    1. Who said anything about "stopping" terrorism? Obviously I did not.
    2. Prove that engaging terrorists over there makes our country less safe.
    3. Who said that "war" brings a high standard of living? Engaging terrorists over there enables us to live our nice little lives over here free of troubles, or free-er of troubles.
    4. Sadly, you are mistaken, war ushered in the greatest time in American History. Without war, we would still have been in a recession of epic proportions and still have been fairly isolated. The dollar was weak too.


    Originally Posted by peepnklown
    Yes, the American Empire. Itís the imperialism of America at least of our military presence around the world. You might laugh at the idea but, itís not so funny in the countries that are dominated by our military.
    imperialism   /ɪmˈpɪəriəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [im-peer-ee-uh-liz-uhm] Show IPA Pronunciation

    Ėnoun 1. the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies.


    1. Care to explain how America fits the definition of as Imperial or as an Empire?
    2. Care to explain how those nations are not inviting us in for a variety of reasons and how you think that we could not or would not be there if that nation did not want us there?
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Is Barack Obama a Warmonger?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    1. Who said anything about "stopping" terrorism? Obviously I did not.
    2. Prove that engaging terrorists over there makes our country less safe.
    3. Who said that "war" brings a high standard of living? Engaging terrorists over there enables us to live our nice little lives over here free of troubles, or free-er of troubles.
    4. Sadly, you are mistaken, war ushered in the greatest time in American History. Without war, we would still have been in a recession of epic proportions and still have been fairly isolated. The dollar was weak too.




    imperialism   /ɪmˈpɪəriəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [im-peer-ee-uh-liz-uhm] Show IPA Pronunciation

    Ėnoun 1. the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies.


    1. Care to explain how America fits the definition of as Imperial or as an Empire?
    2. Care to explain how those nations are not inviting us in for a variety of reasons and how you think that we could not or would not be there if that nation did not want us there?
    I think it's because we dare to have a military, and that we also dare to send portions of that military to other countries. Ignoring, of course, that we have formal agreements in place with those other countries to have our military within their borders.
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    Re: Is Barack Obama a Warmonger?

    I'm wondering how many in this thread who defended Obama are the same ones who castigated Bush for the same thing?

    I just read that Pakistan is not going to allow the USA to bomb Al Queda in Pakistan anymore. Now what do we do?
    Last edited by walleye; 01-28-09 at 07:37 PM.

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