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    Re: Obama to Repeat FDR's Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I don't understand what the problem is. The economy has shown once again that it cannot survive without the government.
    It has to do with the whole credit/loan system where people can go way in debt and then pass away, default and not pay, file bankruptsy and repeat, etc.

    Add in the obsene lawsuit money amounts allowed against madical insurance, etc.

    This and other things add up to a huge economic snowball that will only collapse.
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    Re: Obama to Repeat FDR's Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by lighthouse View Post
    That's simply not true. I don't know where you get your facts from.
    Facts? Who the hell is talking about facts?

    We're talking about the fear of having a Marxist-Leninist like Obama as President.
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    Re: Obama to Repeat FDR's Scam

    We're talking about the fear of having a Marxist-Leninist like Obama as President.


    What a joke.

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    Re: Obama to Repeat FDR's Scam

    What's even more of a joke is supposing some right-wing do nothing type had been elected in FDR's stead. This country would have gone Marxist-Leninist if that had happened

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    Re: Obama to Repeat FDR's Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    What's even more of a joke is supposing some right-wing do nothing type had been elected in FDR's stead. This country would have gone Marxist-Leninist if that had happened

    What was odd about FDR is that traditionally democrats had been against big federal government. FDR blew that out of the water though.

    There is a big communication problem where Democrats and Republicans are on the political scale.

    Democrats are more like bottom up socialists where as Republicans are top down socialists.

    The rhetoric they spew is enough to fool most people on how similar they are.
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    Re: Obama to Repeat FDR's Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by aquapub View Post
    This visionary column by Dick Morris hits the nail on the head:

    TheHill.com

    As Obama uses the recession to justify wildly expanding the nanny state-to European proportions-under the guise of "recovery," while the policies he enacts actually drag it out and worsen it, he will fundamentally weaken the US and cripple its economy, permanently, with irreversible welfare programs, as FDR did with things like Social Security.

    He will also use this insane government expansion to stack the deck for generations against those who prefer individuality, personal responsibility, and self-reliance to nanny state welfare programs and no right to choose.

    And like FDR, for his assault on America, Obama will be revered-at least by all who control the flow of information in this country. And the free market enabling this country to still inch its way towards recovery despite liberal policies will be misrepresented for all time as liberals fixing Republican policy failures.

    So the question is, will America be the least bit distinguishable from the stagnant, mediocre economies of Europe, with their double-digit unemployment rates and government-run everything by the time this charismatic serpent is done smiling his way past our common sense?
    Dick Morris said the same thing about Bush!
    TheHill.com - Bush’s legacy: European socialism

    The results of the G-20 economic summit amount to nothing less than the seamless integration of the United States into the European economy. In one month of legislation and one diplomatic meeting, the United States has unilaterally abdicated all the gains for the concept of free markets won by the Reagan administration and surrendered, in toto, to the Western European model of socialism, stagnation and excessive government regulation. Sovereignty is out the window. Without a vote, we are suddenly members of the European Union. Given the dismal record of those nations at creating jobs and sustaining growth, merger with the Europeans is like a partnership with death.

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    Will Obama govern from the left? He doesn’t have to. George W. Bush has done all the heavy lifting for him. It was under Bush that the government basically took over as the chief stockholder of our financial institutions and under Bush that we ceded our financial controls to the European Union. In doing so, he has done nothing to preserve what differentiates the vibrant American economy from those dying economies in Europe. Why have 80 percent of the jobs that have been created since 1980 in the industrialized world been created in the United States? How has America managed to retain its leading 24 percent share of global manufacturing even in the face of the Chinese surge? How has the U.S. GDP risen so high that it essentially equals that of the European Union, which has 50 percent more population? It has done so by an absence of stifling regulation, a liberation of capital to flow to innovative businesses, low taxes, and by a low level of unionization that has given business the flexibility to grow and prosper. Europe, stagnated by taxation and regulation, has grown by a pittance while we have roared ahead. But now Bush — not Obama — Bush has given that all up and caved in to European socialists.
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    Re: Obama to Repeat FDR's Scam

    What's even more of a joke is supposing some right-wing do nothing type had been elected in FDR's stead. This country would have gone Marxist-Leninist if that had happened
    Don't you find it slightly curious that the depression which saw the most government intervention lasted longer than any other depression in American history?

    Research the depression of 1921 (I believe that was the year). It saw very little government intervention and lasted only one year. The Great Depression, however, was typified by massive government intervention and lasted roughly a decade; that is until WWII shocked our economy into recovery, which, consequently, provided a convenient mask for FDR's economic buffoonery.

    The idea that government officials can properly "manage" something as large, as complex, and dynamic as a country's economy is beyond laughable. No matter how many times history has proven this underlying concept to be a complete and abject failure it continues to persist like some incurable virus. Get the government out of our economy and our lives and we'll be just fine. It's about time for Americans to come out from under mommy's skirt...

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    Re: Obama to Repeat FDR's Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    McCain was also all for massive spending
    A testament to the need to nationally synchronize Republican primaries and stop allowing non-Republicans to determine our nominees. McCain's nomination was the product of media bias, coupled with the voice of actual conservatives being restricted. When we allow liberals to select our candidates for us, we always end up with pseudo-conservative "mavericks" and lose.
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    Re: Obama to Repeat FDR's Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I don't understand what the problem is. The economy has shown once again that it cannot survive without the government.


    If, by "cannot survive without the government," you mean, cannot survive non-stop, crippling Democrat interference in the free market, sure.


    It was Democrat restrictions on American energy supplies that gave us $4/gallon gas and Democrat Affirmative Action lending policies that destroyed the housing market-all of which was taken out on Republicans, the ones screaming from the rooftops since the beginning to prevent all of this.
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    Re: Obama to Repeat FDR's Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by aquapub View Post


    If, by "cannot survive without the government," you mean, cannot survive non-stop, crippling Democrat interference in the free market, sure.


    It was Democrat restrictions on American energy supplies that gave us $4/gallon gas and Democrat Affirmative Action lending policies that destroyed the housing market-all of which was taken out on Republicans, the ones screaming from the rooftops since the beginning to prevent all of this.
    Republican sponsored restrictions are just as bad as Democrat restrictions.
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