View Poll Results: Israel's latest strategy with Gaza: Success or Failure

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Thread: Latest Conflict in Gaza: Success or Failure?

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    Latest Conflict in Gaza: Success or Failure?

    Do you think the latest offensive in Gaza was a success.

    If so, what is your criteria for success and what do you believe the end goal is.

    If not, do you feel the strategy was not executed correctly or that it is wrong.

    Hopefully this doesn't turn into the pure blame game which we nearly all become party to at some point. I'm just curious what people think of the actual strategy being executed and what they believe it should be, if not the same.

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    Re: Latest Conflict in Gaza: Success or Failure?

    Regardless what position one takes I think it has been a failure. Its been another chapter in the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, there has been no resolution though. The status quo can only be considered a failure for both parties. Success would be the abandonment of the campaign of Islamist and militia resistance and the acceptance of a lasting peace agreement between the state of Israel and a Palestinian authority representing both West Bank and Gaza. Hamas won't stop its campaign, it remains to be seen if the Palestinians of Gaza have lost their appetite for Hamas and its agenda. For their part they will claim that they have succeeded in resisting the IDF just as Hezbollah did in 2006. But anyone with any sense can see that initiating a conflict that costs 1000+ lives then hiding in a basement until its over is neither a successful resistance nor any basis for the great revolutionary victory that Hamas is still peddling to the Palestinian people.

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    Re: Latest Conflict in Gaza: Success or Failure?

    Failure.

    Israel goal was to stop the rocket fire and Hamas still has the capability to fire rockets at time very soon apparentley being able to target and hit Tel Aviv.
    The conflict has weakened Israel's supporter Abbas and other moderate Arab Governments who got the brunt of the anger of the attack.
    And last but not least? Hamas's popularity has sky rocketed

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    Re: Latest Conflict in Gaza: Success or Failure?

    When is the next election in Palestine?

    If Hamas is still in control then no. If they are voted out then yes.
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    Re: Latest Conflict in Gaza: Success or Failure?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    When is the next election in Palestine?

    If Hamas is still in control then no. If they are voted out then yes.
    Hamas controls Gaza

    Fatah controls the West Bank

    There will be no election for all of Palestine as a whole, though there probably will be one in the West Bank (where Hamas is banned).

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    Re: Latest Conflict in Gaza: Success or Failure?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Hamas controls Gaza
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    Was Hamas not voted into power? Have they done away with elections? I was unaware of this. While they are still in control Israels actions didn't really do anything except kill a few top level leaders so lower level leaders could slide into their place.
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    Re: Latest Conflict in Gaza: Success or Failure?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    Was Hamas not voted into power? Have they done away with elections? I was unaware of this. While they are still in control Israels actions didn't really do anything except kill a few top level leaders so lower level leaders could slide into their place.
    Hamas won in a purality in the 2006 legislative elections for various reasons. The two groups had a difficult time governing together and there was immense foreign pressure to not recognize Hamas and eventually Hamas seized control of the Gaza strip and the Fatah took the West Bank.

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    Re: Latest Conflict in Gaza: Success or Failure?

    It's too early,
    but from what I can tell, it was so-so.


    -Hamas is probably still receiving weapons from Iran.

    -Some of Hamas' tunnels are still active.

    -There are even more people rallying for the Hamas cause than ever before.

    -I have never seen so much sympathy towards a terrorist origination and its affiliates in my life.


    BUT
    - Israel delivered a severe blow towards Hamas' ability to rule.
    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the former" - Albert Einstein

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    Re: Latest Conflict in Gaza: Success or Failure?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Hamas won in a purality in the 2006 legislative elections for various reasons. The two groups had a difficult time governing together and there was immense foreign pressure to not recognize Hamas and eventually Hamas seized control of the Gaza strip and the Fatah took the West Bank.
    I knew that, but I was asking if elections are still held in Palestine?
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    Re: Latest Conflict in Gaza: Success or Failure?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    I knew that, but I was asking if elections are still held in Palestine?
    Chances are there will be elections in the West Bank, but Hamas has been banned there.

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