Latest Conflict in Gaza: Success or Failure?

[shiznit770]

Do you think the latest offensive in Gaza was a success.

If so, what is your criteria for success and what do you believe the end goal is.

If not, do you feel the strategy was not executed correctly or that it is wrong.

Hopefully this doesn't turn into the pure blame game which we nearly all become party to at some point. I'm just curious what people think of the actual strategy being executed and what they believe it should be, if not the same.

 

[Jay R]

Regardless what position one takes I think it has been a failure. Its been another chapter in the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, there has been no resolution though. The status quo can only be considered a failure for both parties. Success would be the abandonment of the campaign of Islamist and militia resistance and the acceptance of a lasting peace agreement between the state of Israel and a Palestinian authority representing both West Bank and Gaza. Hamas won't stop its campaign, it remains to be seen if the Palestinians of Gaza have lost their appetite for Hamas and its agenda. For their part they will claim that they have succeeded in resisting the IDF just as Hezbollah did in 2006. But anyone with any sense can see that initiating a conflict that costs 1000+ lives then hiding in a basement until its over is neither a successful resistance nor any basis for the great revolutionary victory that Hamas is still peddling to the Palestinian people.

 

[Laila]

Failure.

Israel goal was to stop the rocket fire and Hamas still has the capability to fire rockets at time very soon apparentley being able to target and hit Tel Aviv.
The conflict has weakened Israel's supporter Abbas and other moderate Arab Governments who got the brunt of the anger of the attack.
And last but not least? Hamas's popularity has sky rocketed

 

[RightOfCenter]

When is the next election in Palestine?

If Hamas is still in control then no. If they are voted out then yes.

 

[shiznit770]

When is the next election in Palestine?

If Hamas is still in control then no. If they are voted out then yes.

Hamas controls Gaza

Fatah controls the West Bank

There will be no election for all of Palestine as a whole, though there probably will be one in the West Bank (where Hamas is banned).

 

[RightOfCenter]

Hamas controls Gaza
.

Was Hamas not voted into power? Have they done away with elections? I was unaware of this. While they are still in control Israels actions didn't really do anything except kill a few top level leaders so lower level leaders could slide into their place.

 

[shiznit770]

Was Hamas not voted into power? Have they done away with elections? I was unaware of this. While they are still in control Israels actions didn't really do anything except kill a few top level leaders so lower level leaders could slide into their place.

Hamas won in a purality in the 2006 legislative elections for various reasons. The two groups had a difficult time governing together and there was immense foreign pressure to not recognize Hamas and eventually Hamas seized control of the Gaza strip and the Fatah took the West Bank.

 

[JoeMama]

It's too early,
but from what I can tell, it was so-so.


-Hamas is probably still receiving weapons from Iran.

-Some of Hamas' tunnels are still active.

-There are even more people rallying for the Hamas cause than ever before.

-I have never seen so much sympathy towards a terrorist origination and its affiliates in my life.


BUT
- Israel delivered a severe blow towards Hamas' ability to rule.

 

[RightOfCenter]

Hamas won in a purality in the 2006 legislative elections for various reasons. The two groups had a difficult time governing together and there was immense foreign pressure to not recognize Hamas and eventually Hamas seized control of the Gaza strip and the Fatah took the West Bank.

I knew that, but I was asking if elections are still held in Palestine?

 

[shiznit770]

I knew that, but I was asking if elections are still held in Palestine?

Chances are there will be elections in the West Bank, but Hamas has been banned there.

 

[Degreez]

I knew that, but I was asking if elections are still held in Palestine?

Next Palestinian general election - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lots of interesting things in there

 

[Joby]

When is the next election in Palestine?

If Hamas is still in control then no. If they are voted out then yes.

This isn't fair, at least as long as the only alternative is a bumbling kiss ass.

Israel failed to take out Hamas, but I'm holding on to hope that positive action will come from this.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Failure. Israel neither eliminated Hamas nor eliminated their ability to attack Israel. Further, they had no impact on altering Hamas' position on the existence of Israel.

 

[Khayembii Communique]

It was in many ways a victory for Hamas.

Hamas is cashing in on the destruction by the invasion, pledging "$52 million of the group's funds to help repair lives".

"We are in control and we are the winner," Hamas legislator Mushir al-Masri declared this week, after attending the funeral of four Hamas gunmen.
Source

While Hamas lost a lot of fighters and had its infrastructure severely damaged, it is already rebuilding its infrastructure and is sure to gain many recruitments out of its eventual spike in popular opinion due to its assistance to the Gazan people in rebuilding.

What did Israel gain out of it? Not much, really. Hamas will consolidate its control over Gaza with the popularity it will gain; the tunnels will be rebuilt; rocket attacks will continue inevitably, as well as suicide bombings. I can't really see how this was beneficial to Israel at all, aside from temporarily damaging Hamas organizationally and infrastructurally.

 

[SgtRock]

It was a failure. Israel pulled out without finishing the job of completely eliminating Hamas from Gaza.