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Superman or Batman?

Who is 'better' at being a hero/superhero?

  • Batman

    Votes: 19 59.4%
  • Superman

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Other (please specify)

    Votes: 8 25.0%

  • Total voters
    32

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This is the true test of a debater...well not really, but I think you get the idea.

So who is 'better' at their role as a hero/superhero ?

Batman? Superman?
 
Except spidey is too arrogant. That arrogance is brought out in spiderman III the movie, when he gets that black stuff on him.

He's sarcastic, not arrogant.

Superman is a dumbass who keeps letting some middle-aged goofball bring green rocks around him. Sertiously, how retarded is that?

And Batman is just some billionaire with serious emotional issues. He started fighting crime because mommy and daddy got mugged and killed but instead of becoming a cop or something, he transforms himself into a freak and all the while he can't bring himself to stop hanging around with little boys in tights.

Basically, he's Michael Jackson.
 
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I think that only those who read comic books as children will understand half the jokes in this.

'Jimmy ****ing Olsen bawling on my left' priceless'.
 
This is the true test of a debater...well not really, but I think you get the idea.

So who is 'better' at their role as a hero/superhero ?

Batman? Superman?

Other. Punisher is a better hero. The whole heroes don't kill bad guys because it will make them like the bad guys is a load of crap made up by comic book writers so that they won't have to come up with new villains. Think about the comic book cliche where sometime after being caught by the hero the bad guy escapes prison or escapes from some mental institution and winds up killing more innocent people. Any decent hero would simply execute the criminal. When the batman comics first started out Batman killed criminals and felt no remorse over killing or maiming criminals and was not above using firearms. When the superman comics first started superman didn't care if tossing criminals resulted in their fatalities.
 
I think that only those who read comic books as children will understand half the jokes in this.

I don't/didn't so I guess I only understand half of the jokes, and it's still funny as hell
 
The whole heroes don't kill bad guys because it will make them like the bad guys is a load of crap made up by comic book writers so that they won't have to come up with new villains. Think about the comic book cliche where sometime after being caught by the hero the bad guy escapes prison or escapes from some mental institution and winds up killing more innocent people. Any decent hero would simply execute the criminal. When the batman comics first started out Batman killed criminals and felt no remorse over killing or maiming criminals and was not above using firearms. When the superman comics first started superman didn't care if tossing criminals resulted in their fatalities.

Yea, why does the bad guy escape? just execute him!
I guess comic book writers hold liberal views; as to them, capital punishment is never the answer :coffeepap
 
I don't/didn't so I guess I only understand half of the jokes, and it's still funny as hell

Jimmy Olsen is one of the reporters for the Daily Planet. It's a nerdy thing.
 
Yea, why does the bad guy escape? just execute him!

I guess comic book writers hold liberal views; as to them, capital punishment is never the answer :coffeepap
You are probably right, I still think it is mostly due to laziness of the writers not wanting to keep creating new villains.
 
Other. Punisher is a better hero. The whole heroes don't kill bad guys because it will make them like the bad guys is a load of crap made up by comic book writers so that they won't have to come up with new villains. Think about the comic book cliche where sometime after being caught by the hero the bad guy escapes prison or escapes from some mental institution and winds up killing more innocent people. Any decent hero would simply execute the criminal. When the batman comics first started out Batman killed criminals and felt no remorse over killing or maiming criminals and was not above using firearms. When the superman comics first started superman didn't care if tossing criminals resulted in their fatalities.

Actually, all that was caused by the CCA, the Comics Code authority, which came about because of the United States Senate Subcommittee on Juvenile Delinquency, which focussed primarily on Comic books and the violence, sexual inuuendo and such which they represented.

Ironically, the CCA took a huge blow in credibilty when they would not approve Amazing Spider-man #96 because it had a depiction of drug use. The problem with that was that the government had requested that Marvel do an anti-drug issue to help educate children about the dangers of drugs.

I have that book (all three of the drug issues, in fact). They are pretty cheesy.
 
This is the true test of a debater...well not really, but I think you get the idea.

So who is 'better' at their role as a hero/superhero ?

Batman? Superman?

Wonder Woman's easier on the eyes! I'd rather have her save me:kissy:

Do Charlie's Angel's count? :)
 
Actually, all that was caused by the CCA, the Comics Code authority, which came about because of the United States Senate Subcommittee on Juvenile Delinquency, which focussed primarily on Comic books and the violence, sexual inuuendo and such which they represented.
wow...the government attempted to censor comic books? They had way too much time on their hands. I could imagine that this was happening all the time in congress: :2party:
 
BTW- All props to Lerxst who originally posted the Batman gif in the way back back back.;)
 
Batman is much cooler than Superman.

Batman actually has character, whereas Superman is just a generic superhero with no personality. Batman is mortal and his only superpowers are his brains and gadgets (yes that's a plus). Superman is too powerful...the stories are just not interesting because they're tired and predictable. With Batman, you're at least left wondering how he's going to solve a problem. With Superman, they just invent some new stupid power and the problem is immediately solved.

Also, since Superman can only be foiled by kryptonite, you'd think he would learn to avoid the damn stuff. Batman's weaknesses are the same as any other human's weaknesses, which leads to a much more interesting story because the villains can do unpredictable things to foil him.
 
Also, since Superman can only be foiled by kryptonite, you'd think he would learn to avoid the damn stuff. Batman's weaknesses are the same as any other human's weaknesses, which leads to a much more interesting story because the villains can do unpredictable things to foil him.

But doesn't a hero need to have that one specific weakness?
With Superman it's obviously kryptonite...but with Batman, he's a regular guy, with no specific weakness.

And for that matter batman is too human, he's not even a "SUPER hero"
 
Superman is a fraud. He ducks when a gun is thrown at him.
 
But doesn't a hero need to have that one specific weakness?
With Superman it's obviously kryptonite...but with Batman, he's a regular guy, with no specific weakness.

That makes Batman better. He can be foiled in all of the ways you could foil an ordinary person. With Superman the storyline is so predictable: Villain does something bad, Superman goes to the rescue, Villain does something with kryptonite to stop him, Superman suddenly discovers a new superpower to overcome it, and everyone lives happily ever after.

JoeMama said:
And for that matter batman is too human, he's not even a "SUPER hero"

That makes him better.
 
That makes Batman better. He can be foiled in all of the ways you could foil an ordinary person. With Superman the storyline is so predictable: Villain does something bad, Superman goes to the rescue, Villain does something with kryptonite to stop him, Superman suddenly discovers a new superpower to overcome it, and everyone lives happily ever after.



That makes him better.
true, true
 
Other. Punisher is a better hero. The whole heroes don't kill bad guys because it will make them like the bad guys is a load of crap made up by comic book writers so that they won't have to come up with new villains. Think about the comic book cliche where sometime after being caught by the hero the bad guy escapes prison or escapes from some mental institution and winds up killing more innocent people. Any decent hero would simply execute the criminal. When the batman comics first started out Batman killed criminals and felt no remorse over killing or maiming criminals and was not above using firearms. When the superman comics first started superman didn't care if tossing criminals resulted in their fatalities.

Absolutely, this is especially true of Batman and Joker. How many times has Batman captured Joker, put him in Arkham Asylum, only to have him escape and kill lots of people? Batman is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of people for not putting Joker down like the rabid dog that he is.

That's one of the reasons that DC sucks so badly.
 
That makes Batman better. He can be foiled in all of the ways you could foil an ordinary person. With Superman the storyline is so predictable: Villain does something bad, Superman goes to the rescue, Villain does something with kryptonite to stop him, Superman suddenly discovers a new superpower to overcome it, and everyone lives happily ever after.

Unfortunately, that's how the entire DC universe works. Hero beats up bad guys. They throw a bigger, badder bad guy at hero. Hero has to dig deep and come up with a new power to beat baddie. Hero becomes more powerful. Lather, rinse, repeat until hero is so powerful that nobody stands a chance, then DC reboots the universe, resets everyone back to starting position and does it all over again.

Blah.
 
Unfortunately, that's how the entire DC universe works. Hero beats up bad guys. They throw a bigger, badder bad guy at hero. Hero has to dig deep and come up with a new power to beat baddie. Hero becomes more powerful. Lather, rinse, repeat until hero is so powerful that nobody stands a chance, then DC reboots the universe, resets everyone back to starting position and does it all over again.

Blah.

:agree Yea this crap is getting annoying - and I'm not even the comic-reading guy, I just watch the movies (but I turned down "superman", the movie, its just too much for me, it looked dumb)
 
But doesn't a hero need to have that one specific weakness?
With Superman it's obviously kryptonite...but with Batman, he's a regular guy, with no specific weakness.

And for that matter batman is too human, he's not even a "SUPER hero"

Yeah, but what kind of pansy is able to do pretty much anything, but is scared of rocks?

Batman is way cooler than Superman because of the fact that ihe isn't a"super" hero. He's a badass through hard work and determination, not because of the color of the sun.

Spidey is the coolest because, although he has super powers, he is usually still physically weaker than his opponents. Half of his skill is derived from his natural super-smarts (soemthing they totally screwed the pooch on in the movies was making his webbing a superpower instead of his own brilliant creation as was done in the comics)

Aside from some characters like Batman, DC heros are usually just physically imposing without any brains. Batman is the exception. But even Batman can only exist becaue of he has gobs of money.

Marvel rocks because they understand their target demographic: Geeks. They made many of their most popular characters be nerds as well. Reed Richards, Peter Parker, and Bruce Banner are all great examples of super-nerds becoming superheros.

These nerds often get their superpowers because of their nerd status. They got their powers form science experiments gone wrong and ****.

They have intelligence to go along with their powers.

It makes the comic book nerd feel as though every nerd can bang a supermodel like Peter Parker, or a hot blonde like Reed Richards, or can have extreme power hidden deep within themselves as Bruce Banner did.

Marvel didn't simply focus on being "super" like DC did, they added character devolpment designed to appeals specifically to the people who consumed their product.

DC, on the other hand, creates a super-dude who only pretends to be a nerd (Superman) because being a nerd is a great way to hide how cool you really are. That basically makes fun of nerds, as though they are so inconsequential and so unoticable that if only they took off their glasses and removed the pocket protector, they'd be a whole new super-cool guy that nobody would recognize because the nerd persona was so irrelevant.

In essence, Superman stopped being a nerd when he was being super.

Whereas, for Spidey et al the "secret" identity was that of the hero, and the REAL identity was that of the nerd (except Reed Richards who had no secret identiy. He was a full-time nerd).

And with Banner, the super-badass persona was a negative, not a positive. He would always have preffered to remain a nerd, and the super creature was a dumb brute and that made the cool, tough character into a monster, while the nerdy weak character was prefferable. (until later issues when the Gray hulk/Joe Fixit character had banners smart, but very little morality and the combination banner/hulk that combined banners brains and portions of his personality with the two separate hulk identities in order to resolve some serious daddy-issues he had. I stopped colecting comics around that time, so I don't know **** about what happens later)

But the original take on the Hulk was a very interesting aproach to super-heros, if you ask me.



Anyway, I always preffered Marvel because of the character devolpment and science-based powers. Batman was one of the few DC titles I also collected because he was by far and away the best DC character.

Superman is "teh suck" as far as superheros go. He was afraid of rocks, he faked at being a nerd because nerds are so inconsequential in everyday life that nobody noticed him simply because he wore glasses, his worst enemy was a ***** bald guy who had some of those rocks supes was so scared of, and he had no personality whatsoever.
 
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