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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Thanks Tucker.

    One step beyond though, even if your ancestry was "Responsible" for any of the **** that went on here. You are not accountable. **** is anyone supposed to move on if innocent people are blamed, ridiculed, guilt tripped, etc.
    What this country did to blacks was terrible. What the English did the the Irish was literally just as terrible (and that comes form the words of someone who had first hand knowledge of the plight of the American Slave).

    So I understand how little the subjugation of your people in the past has an affect on the modern situation with quite a good deal of clarity.

    And laws that existed in Northern Ireland have many parralels to Jim Crow in the American South.

    As I would say to a Northern Irishman, I would also say to an American Black.

    Get over the past injustices done to your people. Harping on them does nothing to change the past, and even less to advance yourself in the modern day.
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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Why does the time frame only matter when it comes to "African American" suffering?
    For the same Reason Jews don't care about **** the Spaniards did to them 500 years ago but will bring up the Holocaust which happened 60 years ago. For the same reason Armenians don't really care about the transgressions against them in the 1500s but will bring up the Armenian genocide like clockwork. For the same reason Americans don't really care about the attack that sparked the Spanish American war but will bring up the USS Cole and 9/11. Nobody really cares about **** they weren't around to see and isn't fresh in the memory of most people. My grandparent and to a lesser extent my parents were around for segregation and I'm old enough to remember people in my family talking about how all levels of government stood by as black people in the U.S. were killing each other in the 80s and to a further extent the 90s. Wanna try this question again?

    That's the point I was trying to make initially, I can see how at the time I posted I wasnt able to clearly present it.
    You have yet to present anything coherent or worthy of debate. All you've done is play ignorant.

    Everyone else is expected to get over tough issues yet we are expected to act apologetic to black americans why?
    Everyone else like WHO? The Holocaust survivors who bring it out like clockwork every year and our government and citizens happily take part in it even if most couldn't spell the name of an concentration camp? The Japanese who got reparations? Who are you telling to get over it? America has a very selective memory for who its told to get over it and how.

    I know for a fact that you and I have not experienced any of the bad times in American history.
    Really? Proof? Wait. You don't even know me. Read above.

    I also would not hold a grudge against anyone because of what happened before I was even born. I expect that others should do the same, unless we need to dwell on irrelevance.
    I find it funny how all those who have no dog in this fight argue the 'get over it' like they actually understand what it's like to live in a country for a selective memory for whom it tells to 'get over it'. Like America has made some exception for blacks. Like it never paid reparations to any group or like it doesn't expect us all to feel bad about the hardships of other groups.
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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    To be fair here I think Indians (feather, not dot) have had it worse than blacks.
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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    To be fair here I think Indians (feather, not dot) have had it worse than blacks.
    "Native Americans"
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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    "Native Americans"
    An old guy back home used to call them "Prairie Niggers"
    Quote Originally Posted by SWM
    I never thought infanticide could be so delicious.

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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    An old guy back home used to call them "Prairie Niggers"
    Oh man... Thank goodness those kind of people are fading away into non-being.
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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    For the same Reason Jews don't care about **** the Spaniards did to them 500 years ago but will bring up the Holocaust which happened 60 years ago. For the same reason Armenians don't really care about the transgressions against them in the 1500s but will bring up the Armenian genocide like clockwork. For the same reason Americans don't really care about the attack that sparked the Spanish American war but will bring up the USS Cole and 9/11. Nobody really cares about **** they weren't around to see and isn't fresh in the memory of most people. My grandparent and to a lesser extent my parents were around for segregation and I'm old enough to remember people in my family talking about how all levels of government stood by as black people in the U.S. were killing each other in the 80s and to a further extent the 90s. Wanna try this question again?
    What the hell does black people killing each other have to do with anything? I thought we were talking about racial injustices not ****ty civil wars.

    Furthermore, people in your family talking about something happens is nothing. YOU did not suffer. Get the **** over it.



    You have yet to present anything coherent or worthy of debate. All you've done is play ignorant.
    Ignorance is one way to put it. OR you could say that I am sick of hearing people bitch about **** that has no bearing.



    Everyone else like WHO? The Holocaust survivors who bring it out like clockwork every year and our government and citizens happily take part in it even if most couldn't spell the name of an concentration camp? The Japanese who got reparations? Who are you telling to get over it? America has a very selective memory for who its told to get over it and how.
    Native Americans, who had this land taken from them (**** happens, right?) Japanese Americans who had everything they owned taken from them, put in camps, and were compensated with beans comparatively (**** happens, right?) Women had it pretty bad for how long as well.



    Really? Proof? Wait. You don't even know me. Read above.
    You're in your early 20's. Nuff said.



    I find it funny how all those who have no dog in this fight argue the 'get over it' like they actually understand what it's like to live in a country for a selective memory for whom it tells to 'get over it'. Like America has made some exception for blacks. Like it never paid reparations to any group or like it doesn't expect us all to feel bad about the hardships of other groups.
    All or none then. If anyone should get repairations, everyone should.

    I am not going to pretend like I give enough of a damn about the suffering of other groups to put them before black americans. I just don't have to deal with them looking at me like I'm the one who did the **** to their ancestors even though *Gasp* I was not alive during those times, my family tree would not have even been in a position to participate in the hardships that black people had to go through, etc.

    Frankly I'm sick of hearing about it.

    People like you griping about it will never help anything either. What part of American history has wronged YOU?
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    Don't apologize to me over that silly ****. I could care less if I can see the dust or not.
    Now apologize for apologizing!

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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    It appears we have come full circle to my last post in this thread.

    The point I was making is the fact that blacks were obscenly oppressed in this country by a bunch of old white people. That cannot be changed. And I totally understand why some can't "just make it go away" and move on. It's very easy for me to say it because I'm white. But until I walked a mile in a black man's shoes, I truly cannot understand.

    However, I think an humble acknowlegement with an accompanying heartfelt apology is the best we're ever gonna do. It's like I said. "You can't put toothpaste back into the tube."

    OR..... folks can just stay pissed off about it forever and continue to follow the "blame whitey" game plan and see how much ground they can cover that way. That approach certainly won't be inspiring me to feel any love.

    It just makes sense to me to do whatever we gotta do to make the people closer in the heart.

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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    It appears we have come full circle to my last post in this thread.

    The point I was making is the fact that blacks were obscenly oppressed in this country by a bunch of old white people. That cannot be changed. And I totally understand why some can't "just make it go away" and move on. It's very easy for me to say it because I'm white. But until I walked a mile in a black man's shoes, I truly cannot understand.

    However, I think an humble acknowlegement with an accompanying heartfelt apology is the best we're ever gonna do. It's like I said. "You can't put toothpaste back into the tube."

    OR..... folks can just stay pissed off about it forever and continue to follow the "blame whitey" game plan and see how much ground they can cover that way. That approach certainly won't be inspiring me to feel any love.

    It just makes sense to me to do whatever we gotta do to make the people closer in the heart.


    I don't see how they could stop being pissed off.
    If it was me, I'd never. The fact that they can smile in our faces and be nice to us, take care of our children, tolerate us in any way, shape, or form makes them bigger people than I'll ever be.

    I remember when I first found out "everything".
    I'd always known about racism on some level; for as long as I'd been alive, I'd been hearing stories about slavery, Jim Crow, the civil rights movement, Selma, etc. But.
    I first really put it all together, asked the right questions, got the real, unvarnished answers, understood everything... when I was eleven or twelve. And oh my god, I was so angry.
    I would think about it at weird random times, sitting in school, riding in the car, and I would just start shaking and gritting my teeth. I wanted to kill someone, to destroy things.
    I was so ashamed to be white.
    I felt like nothing I ever did could vindicate me.

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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    I have heard of black folks that self-loath themselves too. So I guess you're in good company.

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