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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Have white people embraced what is "right"?
    To an extent.

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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    If whites didn't embrace what's right he wouldn't be giving that speech
    True dat.

    No, "dat" is not "true".

    If the matter had been left to white voters- and in particular, to white male voters- McCain would've been inaugurated yesterday.

    Among white males, McCain won by a landslide.

    And we all know that.
    Don't try to take credit for generosity, broadmindedness, and general "do-gooding", when we all know that whites got their asses righteously kicked by the sheer numbers of minority voters that turned out this election, thanks in large part to Obama's grassroots community organizing skills, which a smirking Palin saw fit to belittle during the Republican National Convention ("Being a mayor is sort of like being a community organizer, except that a mayor has to do actual work.")

    Whites are- at least so far- "embracing what's right" by being relatively good sports about having their asses kicked; after all, they made the rules of the democratic process. When somebody bests you at your own game, the only honorable course of action is to smile and congratulate them like you mean it.

    So, as I said: to an extent.
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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    And we all know that.
    Don't try to take credit for generosity, broadmindedness, and general "do-gooding", when we all know that whites got their asses righteously kicked by the sheer numbers of minority voters that turned out this election, thanks in large part to Obama's grassroots community organizing skills, which a smirking Palin saw fit to belittle during the Republican National Convention ("Being a mayor is sort of like being a community organizer, except that a mayor has to do actual work.")
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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    No, "dat" is not "true".

    If the matter had been left to white voters- and in particular, to white male voters- McCain would've been inaugurated yesterday.
    Whites make up 74% of the US population. Your statement is intellectually dishonest.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Among white males, McCain won by a landslide. And we all know that.
    This is probably true, do you have the statistics? All I can locate is total white vote...

    The Illinois senator won 43 percent of white voters, 4 percentage points below Carterís performance in 1976 and equal to what Bill Clinton won in the three-man race of 1996. Republican John McCain won 55 percent of the white vote. - Exit polls: How Obama won - David Paul Kuhn - Politico.com

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Don't try to take credit for generosity, broadmindedness, and general "do-gooding", when we all know that whites got their asses righteously kicked by the sheer numbers of minority voters that turned out this election, thanks in large part to Obama's grassroots community organizing skills, which a smirking Palin saw fit to belittle during the Republican National Convention ("Being a mayor is sort of like being a community organizer, except that a mayor has to do actual work.")
    I am not defending Palin, as I don't really care much about her. But your statement is only partially true as I have shown above.

    As for his "grass roots organization skills." I can honestly say most minority's voted for him because he was a minority. I know it is not popular to say this, but it makes it no less true. To deny this is to lie.

    I do think his organizational skills did help him in the primary's. It was quite exciting to see the way he and his people pulled it all together and made it work.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Whites are- at least so far- "embracing what's right" by being relatively good sports about having their asses kicked; after all, they made the rules of the democratic process. When somebody bests you at your own game, the only honorable course of action is to smile and congratulate them like you mean it.

    So, as I said: to an extent.
    This smacks of bigotry at best.

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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Yes or no, why or why not.
    These kinds of questions.......sigh. White people fought in the Civil War to free blacks. White people marched in the civil rights marches. And in 2008......

    According to the below CNN exit poll, 43% of whites surveyed voted for Obama, and they made up 74% of the sample.

    So, given that 131.2 million total votes were cast in the 2008 presidential election, that would imply that 41.7 million white people voted for Obama, or about 60% of the 69.4 million people who voted for him.

    Local Exit Polls - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

    List of United States presidential elections by popular vote margin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Is Obama "right?" Kind of answers itself doesn't it?
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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    No, "dat" is not "true".

    If the matter had been left to white voters- and in particular, to white male voters- McCain would've been inaugurated yesterday.

    Among white males, McCain won by a landslide.

    And we all know that.
    Don't try to take credit for generosity, broadmindedness, and general "do-gooding", when we all know that whites got their asses righteously kicked by the sheer numbers of minority voters that turned out this election, thanks in large part to Obama's grassroots community organizing skills, which a smirking Palin saw fit to belittle during the Republican National Convention ("Being a mayor is sort of like being a community organizer, except that a mayor has to do actual work.")

    Whites are- at least so far- "embracing what's right" by being relatively good sports about having their asses kicked; after all, they made the rules of the democratic process. When somebody bests you at your own game, the only honorable course of action is to smile and congratulate them like you mean it.

    So, as I said: to an extent.
    Geeze louise.

    As has been said without the white vote Obama wouldn't have won. Period. Yes the majority of whites did vote for McCain. That I won't deny. But by a landslide? Bullcrap. Take a look at the exit polls...

    CNN Exit Polls

    White men: 41% Obama: 57% McCain
    White women: 46% Obama: 53% McCain
    Black men: 95% Obama: 5% McCain
    Black women: 96% Obama: 3% McCain
    Latino men: 64% Obama: 33% McCain
    Latino women: 68% Obama: 30% McCain
    All other races: 64% Obama: 32% McCain

    Here's the election polls for 2004...

    2004 CNN Exit Polls

    It doesn't break it down quite as well as they did this year but over all it was...

    White: 58% Bush: 41% Kerry: 0 for Nader
    African-American: 11% Bush: 88% Kerry: 0 Nader
    Latino: 44% Bush: 53% Kerry: 2% Nader
    Asian: 44% Bush: 56% Kerry: * Nader
    Other: 40% Bush: 54% Kerry: 2% Nader

    White Men: 62% Bush: 37% Kerry: 0 Nader
    White Women: 55% Bush: 44% Kerry: 0 Nader
    Non-White Men: 30% Bush: 67% Kerry: 1% Nader
    Non-White Women: 24% Bush: 75% Kerry: 1% Nader

    You were saying? Compare the numbers...what does it tell you? Tells me that Obama took some votes away from the republicans. Seems to me that whites aren't nearly as racist as you think. So do us a favor and take your

    when we all know that whites got their asses righteously kicked by the sheer numbers of minority voters that turned out this election
    and shove it. Racism was not a factor among whites.
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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    They've already been pointed out. You only knew of slavery apparently. Segregation(i.e. 'Equal' but separate') What exactly is your issue?
    please don't think that because I asked for your opinion I am at all anxious for your approval. if you don't want to talk about it, I'd be more than happy to drop this whole subject.

    what is my issue? I think my post speaks for itself. interrupting after the first sentence to ask what I'm talking about is very annoying.

    racism--in america from 1607-2009--is not and has not been limited to whites. segregation occurred between whites and blacks, but also between other minorities. slave ownership and jim crow laws are both obsolete, and yet whites have not yet embraced right? I want to know what's left for us to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Seems to me that in a country where people are still betting on the Bradley effect so that black politicians will lose races, the same country where people claim that blacks only vote for a black man because he's black(racism claiming racism) and where one of the major political parties uses the Southern Strategy as the blueprint for the way it campaigns - that there is AT LEAST one group of white people who hasn't embraced what is right. But like I said. His statement for the most part is racist and outdated in today's context.
    well if that's as bad as it gets then I really don't care much. nothing blacks can't handle. like you said, not my relatives, not my problem.

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    idea Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    What the heck are you talking about . There is no universal thing such as

    ---what is right?

    Issues, causes, solutions and problems, vary from situation to situation.

    Most white people are basically good people. Most people no matter what their color, are good people.

    whether I like or approve of a person is not ever based on their color or religion, it is based on their behavior toward me and the situations that we find ourselves in.

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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Yes or no, why or why not.
    LOL.

    White Conservatives. Yes.
    Black Conservatives. Yes.
    Red Conservatives. Yes.
    Yellow Conservatives. Yes.
    Brown Conservatives. Yes.

    White Socialists. No.
    Black Socialists. No.
    Red Socialists. No.
    Yellow Socialists. No.
    Brown Socialists. No.

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    Re: Have white people embraced what is "right"?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    LOL.

    White Conservatives. Yes.
    Black Conservatives. Yes.
    Red Conservatives. Yes.
    Yellow Conservatives. Yes.
    Brown Conservatives. Yes.

    White Socialists. No.
    Black Socialists. No.
    Red Socialists. No.
    Yellow Socialists. No.
    Brown Socialists. No.
    Interesting. In this world you are either <insert color> conservative or socialist. No room for nothing else, eh?
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