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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

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    Exactly...and if the laws were as black/white as you argue they are...there would never be an issue.
    People can twist an individual word that has a clearly defined meaning into something it is not and never was intended to be used for.

    Word... for an individual.

    What's up... for a phrase.

    Or, how about this one.

    Gay.

    If a society can transform individual words and phrases into something more to their liking (or not) what makes you think that we are not capable of transforming a paragraph into what we WANT?

    As was said before...

    the only "grey area" comes from willful, semantic mis-interpretation of the plain english contained therein.
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post


    Exactly...and if the laws were as black/white as you argue they are...there would never be an issue.
    Are you paying attention? I said agenda's change the situation, that is not to be interpreted as an indication that "grey area" exists in the rights contained within the BOR, that is the flawed human condition that arises from a lack of judicial and constitutional integrity. The rights are in fact absolute, the consequences of abusing them are not. We have a right to own any firearms we choose, we do NOT have a right to use them to commit murder, or open fire anywhere we choose, the difference is the danger that exists from using the firearm incorrectly v. owning the firearm
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Has it been an issue since the conventions, or just recently?
    You know how this issue plays. It's like herpes. Forever there, but it flares up now and then.

    P.S. your avatar is scaring the **** out of me. PLEASE, PLEASE, change it!!
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    I do want to thank Disneydude however, he is a concrete example of the arguments against the second amendment and an smaller scale example of what we are up against, this should not be construed as an insult by any means, but it strengthens the point that we aren't paranoid about people wanting our guns, maybe not Disney specifically, but the more extreme side of the movement certainly does.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    BTW....we don't have your "position"...
    Ah, the lengths you will go to avoid having to admit that you do not know enough about a topic to discuss it and that you dont have the desire to rid yourself of your ignorance.

    My position is abundantly clear to anyone that can read -- but you are too ignorant of the subject to discuss it intelligently.

    Oh well.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Depends on the assault rifle, AK-series are full, most carbines issued now are burst fire, but Overall I see where you are going with the point.
    Thanks, I should added the caveat "currently legal for sale in the US"
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I do want to thank Disneydude however, he is a concrete example of the arguments against the second amendment and an smaller scale example of what we are up against, this should not be construed as an insult by any means, but it strengthens the point that we aren't paranoid about people wanting our guns, maybe not Disney specifically, but the more extreme side of the movement certainly does.
    With the stated objectives of the people in power, its hard to see how the concern about the right to arms qualifies as 'paranoia' to any degree.

    No one has posted a remotely entertainable argument to that effect, even those several people take that position.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You are taking a way too generic approach to the issue. Constitutional rights have never been completely unrestrict-"able".
    Exactly. Listen to disney dude everyone. I agree with his sentiment. Its perfectly okay to restrict constitutional rights due to matters of security, such as the security issues allowing "assult" weapons cause...unless its done by the Bush Administrations and its not aimed at Guns, in which case restricting constitutional rights are absolutely unjust, traitorous, and are reason for impeachment and trial.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Thanks, I should added the caveat "currently legal for sale in the US"
    Sure thing, I was thinking overall military issues, but even the AK's can be fitted with restrictor pins for civilian usage, and then there are the G3s from Heckler and Koch, sweet rifle, but semi-auto, etc.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    With the stated objectives of the people in power, its hard to see how the concern about the right to arms qualifies as 'paranoia' to any degree.
    It's just a way to demonize people they disagree with to gain unearned credibility with the uninformed public.

    No one has posted a remotely entertainable argument to that effect, even those several people take that position.
    The problem is we have an educational system and biased media that turn out a bunch of unqualified citizens these days and they are the one's falling for the amateur arguments and tricks.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

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