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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    This link defines what arms are pretty well.

    BustedTees*-*Second*Amendment
    Funny.....
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Psst... your ignorace is showing.
    The definition of "arms" ans used in the 2nd has been addressed in 2 SCotUS rulings.

    My position is that any weapon that does not fall under the definition of "arms" as the term is used in the 2nd amendment bay be banned without violating the Constitution; by extentsion, any weapon that DOES fall under that definition cannot.

    If you don't understand that position, figure it out.
    If you disagree with that position, explain why.

    The Supreme Court has not defined the extent to which the second amendment extends "arms". Per their usual procedure, the Supreme Court dealt with the issue before them in the narrowest of terms, that was whether the D.C. ban on handguns was Constitutional. Its not as clear as you would argue it is. To make that argument is in an of itself an exposure of ignorance.
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Funny.....
    Needed to lighten the seriousness in here.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The Supreme Court has not defined the extent to which the second amendment extends "arms".
    I suggest you come back when you have some idea of what you are talking about.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Needed to lighten the seriousness in here.
    I can always appreciate that.....
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Needed to lighten the seriousness in here.
    Sorry, but I take my gun-rights very seriously
    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Don't apologize to me over that silly ****. I could care less if I can see the dust or not.
    Now apologize for apologizing!

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I suggest you come back when you have some idea of what you are talking about.
    and I suggest that you come back when you are capable of understanding a Supreme Court opinion.
    "A Man you can bait with a tweet can't be trusted with nuclear weapons"

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Sorry, but I take my gun-rights very seriously
    I do as well but it was the perfect opportunity.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post

    The Constitution is not black/white nor will it ever be. If it were, we wouldn't need a Supreme Court.
    LII: Constitution
    Amendment II
    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Seems like pretty plain english to me, and SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED pretty much eliminates any "grey area" BTW, the Bill of Rights is not subject to interpretation, nor was it ever, only amendment 11 and up are subject, that is in the pre-amble, the founders writings, and the 10th.
    Amendment X

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. Firearms control is specifically restricted from the federal government by the second amendment, it is also supposed to be restricted from the states, but that is another battle.
    None of this is in a foreign language, and as you can see, there is no room for interpretation, I bolded the commas because they denote continuance of thought grammatically.




    Just as in other rights defined in the bill of rights and elsewhere in the Constitution....they are not absolute.
    Rights are absolute, the exercise therein are not, I have a right to own firearms of my choosing, I do not have a right to murder someone with the owned firearm, or endanger my neighbor by shooting it too close to their house, all of the amendments are in check the same way.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Don't apologize to me over that silly ****. I could care less if I can see the dust or not.
    Now apologize for apologizing!

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