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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The arguments I've made are all perfectly clear.
    When you muster the testicular fortitude to honestly address them, let me know.


    Any weapon that does not fall under the definition of "arms" as the term is used in the 2nd amendment.
    Sounds like yet another cop-out. What weapons don't fall under the definition "arms" in your opinion?

    Automatic machine guns? Grenade launchers?......????
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    For hunting and personal protection - yes.
    For warfare and committing mass murder - no.
    And WHY is England's murder rate so much lower than ours ?
    What is the population in comparison to ours? Then take the crime and murder rates and compare them with ours.

    United States: 303,824,640 (July 2008 est.)
    (North America, bordering both the North Atlantic Ocean and the North Pacific Ocean, between Canada and Mexico )

    Murder rates (per capita) 0.042802 per 1,000 people

    United Kingdom: 60,943,912 (July 2008 est.)
    (Western Europe, islands including the northern one-sixth of the island of Ireland between the North Atlantic Ocean and the North Sea, northwest of France)

    Murder rates (per capita) 0.0140633 per 1,000 people

    Now, think about those numbers. We have roughly 4.98x the population of the entire United Kingdom in the United States of America. Yet our Murder rate is ONLY 3x as much as theirs.

    Do the math if you wish, but the numbers speak for themselves.

    Looks like the UK isnt as innocent as you claim? Oh yeah, and they don't have **** for guns.
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The generic reasoning behind a want for any ban is that there are some weapons for which there is no legitimate interest and that the government has justification for banning because it puts our society at risk.
    If you take the anti-gun/ban position --- ANY gun puts our society at risk.
    If you take the pro-gun/anti-ban position ---NO weapon should be restricted.

    The bigger question is what falls within the gray areas.
    The arguement that an inanimate object puts our society at risk is ludicrous.

    Arguements like that are why people end up relating cars to guns when it comes to death.

    NO inanimate object puts our society at risk. Period. Unless the object specifically acts without human management.
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sounds like yet another cop-out. What weapons don't fall under the definition "arms" in your opinion?
    You don't know?
    If you don't know, how can you possibly have an informed discussion on the matter?

    Do the research. Get back to me when you are less ignorant.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sounds like yet another cop-out. What weapons don't fall under the definition "arms" in your opinion?

    Automatic machine guns? Grenade launchers?......????
    Those both fall under the arms category.

    1.Usually, arms. weapons, esp. firearms.
    Technically anything specifically designed as a weapon functioning under the use of a single person is considered "arms".
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You don't know?
    If you don't know, how can you possibly have an informed discussion on the matter?

    Do the research. Get back to me when you are less ignorant.
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Technically anything specifically designed as a weapon functioning under the use of a single person is considered "arms".
    That's one way of describing the term as used in the 2nd.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Those both fall under the arms category.



    Technically anything specifically designed as a weapon functioning under the use of a single person is considered "arms".

    That could basically be anything then. What weapon cannot function under the use of a single person?
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Dancing the shuffle.
    -Your- ignorace will not allow you to have a meaningful discussion.

    Your ignorance is not MY fault; don't blame ME for YOUR unwillingness to learn what you need to learn to carry on an intelligent conversation.

    My position is that any weapon that does not fall under the definition of "arms" as the term is used in the 2nd amendment bay be banned without violating the Constitution; by extentsion, any weapon that DOES fall under that definition cannot.

    If you don't understand that position, figure it out.
    If you disagree with that position, explain why.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 01-22-09 at 02:17 PM.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That could basically be anything then. What weapon cannot function under the use of a single person?
    Bombs, for instance.
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