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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Yes, actually it is, the complications come from people who want to infringe rights........such as people like you. The Bill of Rights are fundamental rights not to be changed or infringed upon, that you refuse to concede that shows you have a fundamental lack of knowledge of the U.S. constitution.
    Debating with extremists is difficult....debating with those who do not understand the analysis is impossible. Do a little reading on Constitutional Analysis and then get back to me.
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Actually, an "assault rifle" is fully automatic or burst capable. "Assault Rifle" is an actual term referring to a machine gun for military use.

    "Assault weapon" is the fake term.
    Yes. And when you point this out to people, they rarely think 'hmm... what ELSE do I not know about the subject, and if I know so little, why do I hold this position?

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Assault rifles able to be loaded with full metal jackets(armer piercing), large magazine clips, and easily manipulated to be converted to fully-automatic.

    What true purpose do they serve?

    I may even be willing to ban any semi-automatic rifle because what true sportsman even wants one?

    But I would never like to see any bans beyond that.
    Please, allow me to explain to you why this is ignorant (possibly not by your own fault)

    Fully metal jacketed ammunition is available for any gun. Why then would an AR-15 .223/5.56 semi-automatic carbine be targeted? As opposed to say, a bolt action .308/7.62x51?

    Large magazines are irrelevant. The VAST majority of gun crimes are commited with weapons that hold 8 or less rounds at a time.

    "Easily manipulated to become fully automatic" you say? Please, explain to me the process in which you make the weapon fully automatic?

    It is not easy. Unless you are talking about bump firing in which the weapon is still firing in semi-automatic, the shooter is just maximizing his or her speed.


    What would be the point in banning semi-automatic weapons?

    You ask what is their purpose? Why would anyone need them?

    I ask you what would it help if we did not have them? What GOOD would come of it?
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    "Assault weapons" are no more or less a part of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms, nor do they present a greater threat to society than handguns or other long guns; given that the court has ruled that you cannot ban hansdguns, there's no way to argue that you can ban 'assault weapons'.

    After all, more police are killed with their own service weapons than with 'assault weapons'.
    Ok....that's a start....now give us your full and complete argument why possession of assault weapons is a "fundamental right" and your argument on why a ban would not meet constitutional scrutiny.
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Debating with extremists is difficult....debating with those who do not understand the analysis is impossible. Do a little reading on Constitutional Analysis and then get back to me.
    That, ladies and gentlemenm, in a classic example of the pot-calling-the-kettle-black, is DD's rather lame attempt to desengage from a discussion he knows he cannot carry.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Ok....that's a start....
    Sorry, sport - you were finished some time go.
    You simply lack the intellectual honesty to admit it.

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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes. And when you point this out to people, they rarely think 'hmm... what ELSE do I not know about the subject, and if I know so little, why do I hold this position?
    Misinformation is everywhere and it is very easy to be afraid of an object before a person.

    After all, guns kill people right? Not people who would kill people with or without the gun?
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That, ladies and gentlemenm, in a classic example of the pot-calling-the-kettle-black, is DD's rather lame attempt to desengage from a discussion he knows he cannot carry.
    says the man who has been shuffling around the argument for the last 3 pages...
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That's not how it works. The Supreme court rules all the time regarding whether bans are constitutional without amending the Constitution. Generally, Amendments come about in order to overcome the courts ruling that the restriction is constitutional.
    Then what is law? If it can be disregarded so easily then why shouldn't call them guidelines. The Supreme Court is made of men and as such do you not think they are infallible or perhaps they have hidden agendas?
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    Re: Are gun owners STILL paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Misinformation is everywhere and it is very easy to be afraid of an object before a person.
    The anti-gun left -hates- people that know what they are talking about.

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