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    Child Support Reform?

    This comes to mind because I know a few fathers who simply cannot make it financially on their own...some get a divorce and end up living with their parents because it is mathematicaly impossible for them to live on their own. They get depressed because when they get their kids for the weekend they don't have a place of their own...etc.

    Of course child support needs to be paid but I often wonder if the percentages are off?

    It seems to be fine for individuals making over 45k yr but too much for anyone under 45k.

    I don't know the real answer and am asking does anyone have some good insight?


    This appears to be a very big issue with many fathers I know.
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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    I've known a few people that had to pay child support and it's never been pretty. As a parent I know how much it costs to feed and clothe my children per month. We live on a max of 200 dollars per month just for food. So it takes about 100 dollars for my kids in food. The doc says that he wishes alot of parents had kids as healthy as mine. We spend about 30 dollars per month on clothes. Thats about it. $130 per month for the nessesities. I don't include housing or anything else in that number because I would have to have that even if I didn't have kids. Family income is about 12k per year. And while we may be living on check to check we are still living alot better than others. So why is it that the child support for alot of people are around $500+? Thats more than what my wife gets on one check. Yes I realize that the amount would be less for me if me and my wife were to ever seperate. But still....I see no reason that a child support check should be so damn much.
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    If they can't make it on their own with their child support payments, how is the mother supposed to make it on her own and raise the children if the payments were reduced?

    One of the reasons why the State encourages marriage in the first place. People can't afford to raise children on their own.

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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    Child support has MANY issues with it at the moment.

    Think about it this way though...

    When you drain one parent of their money to feed the other... you create a lesser environment for the children to be in at the "other" parents home.

    For example: My father had to pay child support AND alimony (all wages considered he was losing over 70% of his income) My mother was able to buy a house, a nice car, and a nice truck with her new boyfriend (since you stop receiving alimony if you marry). While my Father lived in a small apartment (with his new girlfriend) they shared a 10 year old truck, and get this... Because HER income was added to the household (my Dad's girlfriend) my Dad had to pay MORE in child support.

    I ****ing hate the child support system to be completely honest. There are just too many rotten ****ing bitches in the world who use it as nothing other than an income they feel that they are entitled to.

    Here in washington recently there was a meeting of sorts in which they discussed raising the percentage available for child support. Do you know who was notified? JUST the custodial parents... not the people having to pay. They were going to try to increase the amount from 85% total (which is still ****ing nutts) to 85% PER CHILD. How that works I have no idea, but luckily there is an organization here that has been kind enough to provide the same service for the people being raped of their income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    If they can't make it on their own with their child support payments, how is the mother supposed to make it on her own and raise the children if the payments were reduced?

    One of the reasons why the State encourages marriage in the first place. People can't afford to raise children on their own.
    I agree that some Mother's are having just as hard of a time in some cases...but in others I see the Mothers going on nice vacations, and living good while the Father has a constant day to day struggle and is completely demoralized.

    This is why I'm not sure of a good solution?

    Sometimes I wonder if it actually gives some women incentive to divorce,....be a self made daycare center...etc.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    I ****ing hate the child support system to be completely honest. There are just too many rotten ****ing bitches in the world who use it as nothing other than an income they feel that they are entitled to.
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    I agree with you here. Alot of women use the money to buy themselves new shoes or clothes then complain to the father that their kids don't got no shoes or clothes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    I agree that some Mother's are having just as hard of a time in some cases...but in others I see the Mothers going on nice vacations, and living good while the Father has a constant day to day struggle and is completely demoralized.

    This is why I'm not sure of a good solution?

    Sometimes I wonder if it actually gives some women incentive to divorce,....be a self made daycare center...etc.?
    As it stands courts tend to favor the mother for the role of custodial parent. So there's really little to no RISK when it comes to divorcing (if you are a woman that is)

    Hell, in some states you get more than just the child support. I can see how it would be very appealing to spit out kids and/or marry in order to set yourself up.

    I don't know. I really think that the child support should be more realistic of a wage and that it should be on a card similar to the food stamp card. So it is used only for necessities. Anything beyond that the custodial parents should have to cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I agree with you here. Alot of women use the money to buy themselves new shoes or clothes then complain to the father that their kids don't got no shoes or clothes.
    That's how it was with me growing up.

    My custodial parents had a great life. But when it came time for school shopping either I got the cheapest possible **** there was, or my Dad had to fund it.

    My Mother was receiving a little over $800 a month from my Father... she and her boyfriend (untill the alimony period ended) both worked, and she couldnt ****ing buy me school clothes...

    But she got herself a new car, got my now step-dad a brand new truck.
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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    That's how it was with me growing up.

    My custodial parents had a great life. But when it came time for school shopping either I got the cheapest possible **** there was, or my Dad had to fund it.

    My Mother was receiving a little over $800 a month from my Father... she and her boyfriend (untill the alimony period ended) both worked, and she couldnt ****ing buy me school clothes...

    But she got herself a new car, got my now step-dad a brand new truck.
    I think requiring the parent who has custody of the child to give receipts to the parent who has to pay child support would be a step in the right direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    That's how it was with me growing up.

    My custodial parents had a great life. But when it came time for school shopping either I got the cheapest possible **** there was, or my Dad had to fund it.

    My Mother was receiving a little over $800 a month from my Father... she and her boyfriend (untill the alimony period ended) both worked, and she couldnt ****ing buy me school clothes...

    But she got herself a new car, got my now step-dad a brand new truck.
    Yeah, my husband has a daughter from a previous marriage and has a situation like that. It's nice to have an innocent child to tell you the truth where the money is really going, but it's also frustrating because you can't seem to do a damn thing about it.
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