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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Responsible to half of the childs actual support expenses maybe but not to be sucked dry from money and have your spirit demoralized and crushed....

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    This is one of the biggest reasons the system is so ****ed.

    How are you able to have a healthy relationship with a parent you see twice a month, in the ghetto area of whatever town they can now afford to live in after bleeding themselves dry to pay for your mothers shoes?

    In some cases the "other" parent ends up living in a hostile area just because thats where they CAN live (or the parent option as you said) How then is the child supposed to form a valid bond with that parent when (twice a month) they see that parent in horrible conditions?

    The whole thing bugs me beyond belief.
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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    This is one of the biggest reasons the system is so ****ed.

    How are you able to have a healthy relationship with a parent you see twice a month, in the ghetto area of whatever town they can now afford to live in after bleeding themselves dry to pay for your mothers shoes?

    In some cases the "other" parent ends up living in a hostile area just because thats where they CAN live (or the parent option as you said) How then is the child supposed to form a valid bond with that parent when (twice a month) they see that parent in horrible conditions?

    The whole thing bugs me beyond belief.
    The whole thing bugs me beyond belief too and was wondering if anyone else here had the same feelings.

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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    The whole thing bugs me beyond belief too and was wondering if anyone else here had the same feelings.
    They sure do.

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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    I must have been writing my post when your same suggestion came up
    I think another idea would be to set up an electronic credit card type system where instead of actually getting a check the individual gets a card similar to a access/food stamp card. That way restrictions can be put in place and the person paying child support and at the end of the month the person paying can get a statement sheet. It would still be open to fraud because the person holding the card can go shopping for someone else in exchange for the money, but the parent who doesn't get custody can visit to see if those things were purchased for the care of the child or ask the child if he or she actually received whats on the end of the month statement.
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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think requiring the parent who has custody of the child to give receipts to the parent who has to pay child support would be a step in the right direction.
    I don't know about receipts because you can make that look like just about anything, plus you can't really prove specifically what the money is being spent on, only that you're getting receipts for clothes, etc.

    What I'd like to see is the state issuing debit cards to the custodial parent with the support money available for purchase and every cent of that money can be tracked to specific purchases. That way you know that the mother isn't using it to pay for car insurance and then sending receipts for something else she dug out of a trash can.
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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    This comes to mind because I know a few fathers who simply cannot make it financially on their own...some get a divorce and end up living with their parents because it is mathematicaly impossible for them to live on their own. They get depressed because when they get their kids for the weekend they don't have a place of their own...etc.

    Of course child support needs to be paid but I often wonder if the percentages are off?

    It seems to be fine for individuals making over 45k yr but too much for anyone under 45k.

    I don't know the real answer and am asking does anyone have some good insight?


    This appears to be a very big issue with many fathers I know.
    I hate this answer, but I think the process deserves more moderation, and parents incapable of paying a set amount should be more easily able to have that amount reduced, and vice-versa.

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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by Torin View Post
    I hate this answer, but I think the process deserves more moderation, and parents incapable of paying a set amount should be more easily able to have that amount reduced, and vice-versa.
    I don't see why you would hate that answer.

    If you are draining someone of their income in order to benefit yourself (Because thats what it comes down to in the end) you are harming relations with the child you two share.

    I'll tell you right now, even though my Dad and I didnt get to do as much, or spend as much time with each other as I would have enjoyed growing up... I respect him a hell of alot more than my mother.

    She was an economic vampire when it came to child support, and barely any of it actually supported me. I was THAT familys cash cow if you will. If I would have left I would have devastated my mother, stepdad, and little (half) brother. That combined with knowing that my Dad not only had to work his ass off to provide for himself, but for him to pay for my moms vehicles, clothes, (insert pretty much anything here) and STILL he had to be the one that would take me shopping for school clothes, supplies, etc... Where do you think my respect lies? What kind of relationship do you think I've got with my mother after watching this kind of action?

    The system needs to be heavily monitored or at the very least drastically changed. I'm sorry, but people can not be trusted with free money.
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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    I don't see why you would hate that answer.

    If you are draining someone of their income in order to benefit yourself (Because thats what it comes down to in the end) you are harming relations with the child you two share.

    I'll tell you right now, even though my Dad and I didnt get to do as much, or spend as much time with each other as I would have enjoyed growing up... I respect him a hell of alot more than my mother.

    She was an economic vampire when it came to child support, and barely any of it actually supported me. I was THAT familys cash cow if you will. If I would have left I would have devastated my mother, stepdad, and little (half) brother. That combined with knowing that my Dad not only had to work his ass off to provide for himself, but for him to pay for my moms vehicles, clothes, (insert pretty much anything here) and STILL he had to be the one that would take me shopping for school clothes, supplies, etc... Where do you think my respect lies? What kind of relationship do you think I've got with my mother after watching this kind of action?

    The system needs to be heavily monitored or at the very least drastically changed. I'm sorry, but people can not be trusted with free money.
    I hate it because I'm a little timid when it comes to expanding government regulations and processes. When it's necessary, and this does seem like one of those times, then I'm okay with it.

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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by Torin View Post
    I hate it because I'm a little timid when it expanding regulations and process. When it's necessary, and this does seem like one of those times, then I'm okay with it.
    I hear you.

    It's unfortunate that we need mediation when it comes to child care. But like I said before, people can not be trusted with "free money".
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    Re: Child Support Reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    I hear you.

    It's unfortunate that we need mediation when it comes to child care. But like I said before, people can not be trusted with "free money".
    Amen. I'm going to go back through and read some more of this topic, though. I saw an interesting idea regarding a debt card...


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