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    Re: Could we have stopped 9/11?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Depends on whether or not you think we can stop a day from happening a not.

    9/11 happens once a year, every year.
    Funny and true! We can rework our calendars to go from the 10th to the 12th. February needs another day anyway, so we can just add that lost day to the end of February.

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    Re: Could we have stopped 9/11?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica View Post
    Funny and true! We can rework our calendars to go from the 10th to the 12th. February needs another day anyway, so we can just add that lost day to the end of February.
    Hahahahaha, we do that occasionally, Einstein.
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    Re: Could we have stopped 9/11?

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    You seem to have a sickening view (I think you should change your lean to neo-conservative). Of course, stopping 9/11 would have saved lives but, this world-wide terrorism is a boogieman used by the people in the US who want to use our military to conquer the world. Terrorism is simply blowback for the black-opts type of dealings our CIA, etc have done behind our backs.
    1. Saved some lives at the cost of what else? Of course it would have been "better" to stop 911 and deal with terrorists in another manner, but that was not happening, and meanwhile, terrorism is getting stronger and better organized.


    2. uh... terrorism on a world wide level is NOT a real threat, according to you? Okay....
    There are numerous organization operating in dozens of countries with and without State Sponsors that are doing so independent of The Unites States and you think that this is an issue created by us?

    Wake up.


    3. terrorism has been around far longer than the CIA has existed, thousands of years. Modern Terrorism by Muslims was created in 1928, still much earlier than the CIA as well. Not sure what the hell you are talking about, for it makes little sense at all. Most early terrorism was directed at nations other than the United States, only recently has it directed at us, and that is in confusion over the Cold War. If we are the bad guys, then why are the Russians, British and Chinese... to name only a few, also being attacked by Muslim Terrorists? Pull your head out of fairyland for a second and think.


    4. I am fairly balanced politically, and unfortunately for you and this issue... you decision to label me as political instead of logical shows your weakness of interpretation skills as well as your little agenda driven tripe.
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    Re: Could we have stopped 9/11?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica View Post
    Of course we could not stop 9/11 from happening, as it was an inside job and the result of a sham election putting "the right people" into office to perpetrate the crime.
    Any proof of this, or is this just more opinion?
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    Re: Could we have stopped 9/11?

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
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    I say once more: the so-called terrorists did not come across the border; they came into this country by the VISA process. The so-called anthrax scare did not come across the border but, from US military labs.
    So, I point out the oddity of not correcting the actually pathways that threats have come into this country.
    Einstein...do you think they would try and repeat a hijacking or would they move on to the next weakness with a better chance for far more damage?

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    Re: Could we have stopped 9/11?

    Who is "we"?

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    Re: Could we have stopped 9/11?

    The air cover over the eastern US was lifted for that day only for a "drill", with authorization traceable to the Vice President's office. Fighters were so far away they couldn't get to Washington in time to stop the Pentagon attack...almost an hour after the towers were hit.

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    Re: Could we have stopped 9/11?

    Obviously, this is a question that can never be answered. However, it did happen while Bush was President for 8 months. And during those 8 months he did absolutely nothing to prevent this attack. He did nothing to alert all our nation's agencies and security people to the hightened possibility that AQ and OBL was intent on attacking us. And we now know that he had puh-lenty of warnings!

    From: Bush Should Have prevent 9/11 terrorist attacks on World Trade Center and Pentagon - September 11, 2001 bin Laden

    The paramount duty of a government is to protect its citizenry. There can be no higher priority than the "safety" of the people. This principle is self evident. Our founding fathers listed the right to life as the first inalienable right. Nothing is more cherished or important than life and no loss can be greater.

    During the 9/11 hearings, Commissioners and witnesses, repeatedly referred to the period of threat before 9/11 as "the summer of threat." This pre-9/11 period was characterized as the "highest level of threats in American history." And one Democratic senator on the committee told reporters that that a July warning – the one noting a "spectacular" attack loomed – had indeed gone to senior White House officials and the president.

    Based upon, the evidence produced at the 9/11 hearings, it was abundantly clear that the US was facing a serious, substantial, large and imminent attack from terrorists. According to Tenet and Clarke, the President received daily reports on the terror threat and the "urgency" of the threats was repeatedly stressed.

    Although the argument is repeatedly made that hindsight is 20/20, this argument does not justify a failure to sufficiently react to what the Bush administration actually knew at a level commensurate to the potential threat of harm. The issue is not so much of one in not being able to connect the dots, it is one that centers around the neglect to react to the giant dots that were clearly before those responsible for our safety.

    It is a giant dot that the CIA and the Administrations leading counterterrorism expert expressed "urgency" about the matter. After months of attempting to convey the "urgency," on September 4, 2001, Clarke sent Rice a written statement. Clarke said that when hundreds of American bodies are laying around you will question whether there was anything else that could have been done.

    So, the general threat of terrorism to Americans in America, alone, required at least minimal reaction, if not the utmost care. Again, we are talking about an "urgent" matter involving "highest level of threats in American history." However, Bush was presented with much more specifics. There were Presidential Daily Briefings (PDB). According to 9/11 Commissioner Jamie S. Gorelick, the titles of the PDBs alone were alarming. One specifically, referred to bin Laden and the use of planes as missiles.

    On August 6, 2001, over a month before 9/11, during the "summer of threat," President Bush received a PDB at his Crawford, Texas ranch indicating that bin Laden might be planning to hijack commercial airliners. The memo was entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US", and the entire 11 page memo focuses on the possibility of terrorist attacks inside the US.

    The complete contents have never been made public and Bush has fought to keep the matter out of the public record. However, a Congressional report later describes it: it mentions "that members of al-Qaeda, including some US citizens, had resided in or traveled to the US for years and that the group apparently maintained a support structure here.

    The report cited uncorroborated information obtained in 1998 that Osama bin Laden wanted to hijack airplanes to gain the release of US-held extremists; FBI judgments about patterns of activity consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks and the number of bin Laden-related investigations underway; as well as information acquired in May 2001 that indicated a group of bin Laden supporters was planning attacks in the US with explosives."

    On July 6th, there was a meeting between Rice and Andrew Card wherein concern was expressed the terrorists were taking flight training. There was a warning in a report to Rice by Clarke that terrorist cells were in the US.
    These are great dots placed squarely before Bush. These warnings alone would require a "shaking of the trees" and "battle station" readiness.

    According to a May 25, 2002 New York Times article, after receiving the August 6, 2002 PDB about bin Laden and attacks upon America, incredibly, Bush "broke off from work early and spent most of the day fishing." Also, Bush took a one month vacation during the period of the "summer of threat." This may support Clarke accusations that the Bush administration did not consider the matter "urgent."

    On May 16, 2002, Rice held a press briefing; she insisted that no one could have envisioned the events of September 11. “I don’t think anybody could have predicted that these people…would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile,”
    They were so guilty of ignoring clear and dependable warnings of threats to our country that these people should be tried for dereliction of duty.
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    Re: Could we have stopped 9/11?

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The air cover over the eastern US was lifted for that day only for a "drill", with authorization traceable to the Vice President's office. Fighters were so far away they couldn't get to Washington in time to stop the Pentagon attack...almost an hour after the towers were hit.
    Believe me...there's a lot more odd coincidences than that on 9/11...!

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    Re: Could we have stopped 9/11?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Obviously, this is a question that can never be answered. However, it did happen while Bush was President for 8 months. And during those 8 months he did absolutely nothing to prevent this attack. He did nothing to alert all our nation's agencies and security people to the hightened possibility that AQ and OBL was intent on attacking us. And we now know that he had puh-lenty of warnings!

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    They were so guilty of ignoring clear and dependable warnings of threats to our country that these people should be tried for dereliction of duty.
    Well, Cheney has issued a warning. If an attack on the USA takes place now there will be nutz who will say that Obama should be tried for failure to do anything about Cheney's warning.

    Absolute imbeciles.

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