View Poll Results: What will be GWB's legacy?

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  • A great and inspired world leader

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  • A man who accomplished much but failed to live up to his complete potential

    3 8.57%
  • A man who may have had good ideas but failed to accomplish much

    10 28.57%
  • A man with lack of ideas and accomplished very little

    6 17.14%
  • A complete and utter failure who drove this country to the brink of bankruptcy

    16 45.71%
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    Re: GWB's Legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Leftist Protozoa View Post
    He has got this poll pretty much in the bag:

    Who is the Worst US President Ever?

    88% when I voted
    Worst President Ever is kind of absurd. Most people are kind of solipsists and don't really think outside of their own realm of existence. So when they have polls like that, it's hard to take them seriously because nobody remembers or fully knows what all Presidents were like. They only have history books to tell them and those aren't completely unbiased.

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    Re: GWB's Legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Well, I consider myself a "glass is half full" kinda guy and I don't really see someone successfully putting a positive spin on his Presidency that most people will swallow willingly.
    Same was said about HST -- imagine, threatening to draft striking railroad workers into the military in order to break a strike.

    How is his legacy holding up?

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    Re: GWB's Legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Try looking at the poll options. There are plenty of options to choose from. Certainly one that fits most everyone's views
    Hence you felt no need for an "other" field because your five BDS options are the options that "fit's most everyone's" views. Right.
    Last edited by Sir Loin; 01-19-09 at 01:40 PM.

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    Re: GWB's Legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Loin View Post
    Hence no need for "other" because your five BDS options are the options that "fit's most everyone's" views. Right.
    Take off your own "BDS" glasses...maybe you will see something other than what you want to see. I made the poll options with 1 basically 100% in favor of Bush, 1 100% against Bush and the other three that fall within.
    What are your views of his legacy and how don't they fall within any of the options provided....please enlighten us.
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    Re: GWB's Legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Worst President Ever is kind of absurd. Most people are kind of solipsists and don't really think outside of their own realm of existence. So when they have polls like that, it's hard to take them seriously because nobody remembers or fully knows what all Presidents were like. They only have history books to tell them and those aren't completely unbiased.
    You'll never hear me overestimate the general intelligence of the average person.

    All polls have inherent statistical problems. However, I challenge you to find any other end-of-term poll that damns the outgoing guy as bad as this one.

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    Re: GWB's Legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Leftist Protozoa View Post
    You'll never hear me overestimate the general intelligence of the average person.

    All polls have inherent statistical problems. However, I challenge you to find any other end-of-term poll that damns the outgoing guy as bad as this one.
    That's true, but I think it's only because we haven't had a President this bad in a long time or at least in most people's memories of past Presidents. The problem with the poll, though, is that it goes to show just how much Bush managed to split the country. I personally can't think of a President who has caused more problems than Bush, but I also wouldn't call him the "Worst President Ever" because that's a pretty extreme and somewhat melodramatic statement to make.

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    Re: GWB's Legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    but I also wouldn't call him the "Worst President Ever" because that's a pretty extreme and somewhat melodramatic statement to make.
    Being the "worst" is sometimes hard to determine. It's not like you have any scorecard to compare. However, people can have opinions; and all will vary in their degree of melodrama, factual support, and emotions.

    Having said all that, I will still declare GWB the worst in my book.

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    Re: GWB's Legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    That's true, but I think it's only because we haven't had a President this bad in a long time or at least in most people's memories of past Presidents.
    In what specific terms was GWB worse that Jimmy Carter?
    Or... Harry Truman?

    I personally can't think of a President who has caused more problems than Bush....
    In terms about dividing the country....
    How about Buchanan/Lincoln?

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    Re: GWB's Legacy

    The historians won't be people who hate Bush because he stole an election from Al Gore. They won't be people who believe Bush lied us into a war. They won't be people who think a president is responsible for every economic downturn.

    So they'll write about 50 million people liberated from tyranny in the Mid East and the spread of democracy. No terrorist attacks for 8 years after 9/11, two million people saved from death by AIDS in Africa. Our seniors no longer having to choose between food and medicine. Our students doing better in school with No Child Left Behind.

    Given that he tried to change the oversight of Fannie Mae since taking office in 2001 it will be hard to pin the economic crisis on him, which the economists say is the cause of the crisis.

    The historians are not likely to be particularly sympathetic to the treatment of terrorists or people having their phone lines tapped during a war.

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    Re: GWB's Legacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    In what specific terms was GWB worse that Jimmy Carter?
    Or... Harry Truman?
    Well, I was like 2 years old when Jimmy Carter administration ended, so I don't remember anything specifically bad about Jimmy Carter. However, I will say that I don't remember people talking about how he split the country in two or how a national tragedy happened on his watch or how he used said national tragedy as currency to go into a completely unrelated war.

    In terms about dividing the country....
    How about Buchanan/Lincoln?
    I never said he's the only one who divided the country.

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