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Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?


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Thank you, but its not really my strategy, since that's how we won WW2. And now Germany and Japan are some of our best allies.

Ah, so let us start another war and end hundreds of thousands more lives. That sounds wonderful. We can drop some more bombs, lose some more of our youth, and stomp some countries into the ground. I hope you realize that your plan of action would only hurt this country, acting as justification for small children to be sucked up into the ranks of terrorists. "Look what they did to your family, don't you want to get revenge? Good! Here is this bomb, avenge your loved ones". Again, brilliant ****ing plan.
 
I don't think it should be closed at all.
The people who are held within this prison have no rights within the US to be held to a "fair trial".
Prisoners of war are exactly that, prisoners.
American soldiers are tortured when they are captured by our enemies. So if you're going to cry here, you better be crying in other nations too, telling them they need to stop this Bull****.
Torture is not okay, but it happens even on American soil. So I don't see the point in closing down a prison in Cuba. Personally, I'd rather them be in another country if they were to be released or if they were to escape. If they are out to kill Americans why would you have them in America?
And those of you from the UK bitching about the release of these terrorists, why won't you take them? Lalia has said US should have them. Is this because you think these people are potentially dangerous and do not want them freed within your land so that they may kill your people? Well, that's interesting.

There are a few cases of torture, and there are a few cases of released terrorists returning to kill. I say it puts both sides on even grounds.
You want proof that the people there are terrorists, well I want proof from you that they are not. I personally do not think that the Americans just went in and took a bunch of innocent people to torture for the hell of it. That notion is ridiculous.
 
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Ah, so let us start another war and end hundreds of thousands more lives. That sounds wonderful. We can drop some more bombs, lose some more of our youth, and stomp some countries into the ground. I hope you realize that your plan of action would only hurt this country, acting as justification for small children to be sucked up into the ranks of terrorists. "Look what they did to your family, don't you want to get revenge? Good! Here is this bomb, avenge your loved ones". Again, brilliant ****ing plan.

So you're suggesting that we just set everyone free and let the terrorists continue to kill innocent people?
 
Because the Executive Order definately says "Within one year.

NOT tomorrow, nor the next day. It may take 364 days, but the prison which is notorious around the world for TORTURE will eventually be closed. Obama is just polishing the tarnished medal that is the USA.

You can thank Bush for rolling it around in the dirt and stepping on it.




What shall we do with them after one year?


None of you seems to want to answer this.
 
What shall we do with them after one year?


None of you seems to want to answer this.

From what I understand they're all innocent and should be released, or given a fair trial so that they will be found innocent and then will be released. And if they're guilty they want them held within American soil, so if they escape they are free to have at it with millions of innocent people.
 
I'm not saying I agree with you or not, but a lot of what I bolded, people on this forum are probably going to have a problem with :argue.....
:coffeepap

I don't care if they have a problem with it. But they want America to roll over to it's enemies. And really if they think about it, they would be handing America over to terrorists. America would fall, just like Rome. You have to show how strong you are. Closing down a prison because people are crying about a few incidents is stupid to me. There are other actions that could take place before closing a prison. That's suggesting that other countries have more place in deciding what goes on within your country. That's a sign of weakness.
 
From what I understand they're all innocent and should be released, or given a fair trial so that they will be found innocent and then will be released. And if they're guilty they want them held within American soil, so if they escape they are free to have at it with millions of innocent people.



Wait a second. You do realize many of these nations do not want these people back right?

What will you do with them?


And how did you conclude "they're all innocent"? :roll:
 
Wait a second. You do realize many of these nations do not want these people back right?

What will you do with them?


And how did you conclude "they're all innocent"? :roll:

I was being sarcastic throughout the whole post...reread it please. You'll notice I agree with you.
 
Pull The Cord

"Pull The Cord"
What shall we do with them after one year?
None of you seems to want to answer this.
How about put them on a C130 with a parachute and drop (or hurl) them into their country of origin whether their country wants them back or not?
 
Re: Pull The Cord

"Pull The Cord"
How about put them on a C130 with a parachute and drop (or hurl) them into their country of origin whether their country wants them back or not?



:lol:

1. cause the Obama wouldn't have the balls.

2. liberals would be up in arms.

3. Parachutes are too expensive. :mrgreen:
 
Re: Pull The Cord

:lol:

1. cause the Obama wouldn't have the balls.

2. liberals would be up in arms.

3. Parachutes are too expensive. :mrgreen:

Nah, makeshift them with all the excess plastic bags the world seems to have.
 
Ah, so let us start another war and end hundreds of thousands more lives. That sounds wonderful. We can drop some more bombs, lose some more of our youth, and stomp some countries into the ground. I hope you realize that your plan of action would only hurt this country, acting as justification for small children to be sucked up into the ranks of terrorists. "Look what they did to your family, don't you want to get revenge? Good! Here is this bomb, avenge your loved ones". Again, brilliant ****ing plan.
Actually I was thinking it would take much more than that. But hey, you have to start somewhere.

Your comment that killing them fosters a new generation into hatred doesn't pan out based on the historical perspective that I already gave you.
 
Actually I was thinking it would take much more than that. But hey, you have to start somewhere.

Your comment that killing them fosters a new generation into hatred doesn't pan out based on the historical perspective that I already gave you.

Well Germany was quite unique what with the horrors they discovered about their government and in Japan I think there is still some resentment.
 
All of these bleeding hearts are gonna look pretty stupid when this backfires right in their face and it will, no doubt about it. Their phoney righteous indignation and phoney cause is being used by those who want to destroy us and the moonbats are too naive to see it. It's a character flaw of the far left. When it does backfire, they will blame the right for making the terrorists angry. They always justify themselves by blaming others. Not taking responsibility is a far left character flaw. I just witnessed it tonight on CNN. A far left moonbat justified the leader of Al Queda in Yeman who was released from Gitmo by saying if he had been held in Gitmo that he would probably be angry and would do something to retaliate also. They never take responsibility for their errors in judgement. It's arrogance gone to seed.
 
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All of these bleeding hearts are gonna look pretty stupid when this backfires right in their face and it will, no doubt about it. Their phoney righteous indignation and phoney cause is being used by those who want to destroy us and the moonbats are too naive to see it. It's a character flaw of the far left. When it does backfire they will blame the right for making those who carry out the attack for making them angry. They always justify themselves by blaming others. Not taking responsibility is a far left character flaw.

To think once chivalry and honour were Conservative even positively reactionary values. :(
 
To think once chivalry and honour were Conservative even positively reactionary values. :(

What does that have to do with the fact that the far left does not take responsibility for their actions when they are in error. I think you just proved my point.
 
All of these bleeding hearts are gonna look pretty stupid when this backfires right in their face and it will, no doubt about it. Their phoney righteous indignation and phoney cause is being used by those who want to destroy us and the moonbats are too naive to see it. It's a character flaw of the far left. When it does backfire, they will blame the right for making the terrorists angry. They always justify themselves by blaming others. Not taking responsibility is a far left character flaw. I just witnessed it tonight on CNN. A far left moonbat justified the leader of Al Queda in Yeman who was released from Gitmo by saying if he had been held in Gitmo that he would probably be angry and would do something to retaliate also. They never take responsibility for their errors in judgement. It's arrogance gone to seed.


It will probably backfire because they will go to the other extreme. Conservative extreme lock em all up liberal extreme let em all go. Typical government methods at handling problems.

What needs to be done is to establish a legal process that sorts them all out and provides some form of justice.

You have some here that say they are prisoners of war. If that is so then the geneva convention applies. Others say they are thugs. If that is so then the criminal justice system should handle them.

As a nation that prides itself on fairness justice and due process to hold prisoners that are only suspected of terror actions indefinitly and denying the accused the right to prove their innocence or guilt is not a good thing.

If we are holding some one that has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt is truly a terrorist then that person should be held via a legal sentencing process.

It is the warehousing and torture policies with inmates being denied the basic rights to legal recourse that has brought about the calls for closing Gitmo

Then comes the problem of where do we put them after if they are legally convicted? They are a special class of prisoner in the sense that they are non US citizens that have perptrated attacks against the US and they would not really be safe in a military or civilian prisons general populations.

Moe
 
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