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Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

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Yes, we should give them to the Euros to look after, like they've offering to do. Then we could set up some sort of system to release detainees who are innocent and, of course, never release anyone who has plotted against the US.
 
Joby said:
Yes, we should give them to the Euros to look after, like they've offering to do. Then we could set up some sort of system to release detainees who are innocent and, of course, never release anyone who has plotted against the US.
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i'm in for that :usflag2:
 
Joby said:
Yes, we should give them to the Euros to look after, like they've offering to do. Then we could set up some sort of system to release detainees who are innocent and, of course, never release anyone who has plotted against the US.
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Europe is run by cowards and fools. I wouldn't trust our "allies" to run a hot dog stand, let alone, be in charge of the world's most dangerous terrorists.

I think we should release them only in the communities of any politician who voted against Gitmo, the Patriot Act, troop funding, the war, or who has trashed the troops or declared the war lost as it was being won.

That way it would no longer be just innocent Americans who get slaughtered by absolutist Democrat stupidity and treason.
 
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peepnklown said:
GITMO should be closed, the Military Commissions Act should be repealed and Habeas Corpus needs to be strengthened. What type of country do we live in when our government throws people in a foreign prison in secret, without charges, and tortures them? This state is not America; it’s more like Nazi-Germany or Stalin’s Russia. I hope ‘what do we do with the detainees’ is not the only reason holding us back from demanding justice.
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Um, I don't think there's a reasonable equivalency between the US and the Nazis or Stalin's Soviet Union. Maybe I am wrong or just plain stupid, but I don't see out government imprisoning millions of citizens and murdering tens of millions of people.

Do you?

You know, what is surprising is the large number of liberals that deal in these types of repugnant equivalencies. They hold no water whatsoever as a characterization of the US. In fact, such equivalencies do more to minimize the true horror of the Nazi machine gassing and burning millions of Jews and others and the Soviets murdering tens of millions of their own people. I wonder what motivated these people to feel compelled to lower the bar of true evil simply to smear Bush or the US.

Guys like Obama who assert that our military personnel are fire-bombing villages in Afghanistan and Iraq; Dick Durbin comparing our military to the Nazi's, Soviet gulags, and Pol Pot's killing fields, etc., etc., etc.

Seriously, do these people really think that anything the US has done in the last eight years comes close to attempting to exterminate an entire race of people, murder tens of millions of Soviet citizens or imprison millions of others, or reflect the killing fields in Cambodia?

These people need their heads checked.
 
aquapub said:
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Europe is run by cowards and fools. I wouldn't trust our "allies" to run a hot dog stand, let alone, be in charge of the world's most dangerous terrorists.
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Good thing that, unlike yourself, most people are sensible.

I think we should release them only in the communities of any politician who voted against Gitmo, the Patriot Act, troop funding, the war, or who has trashed the troops or declared the war lost as it was being won.
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Brilliant plan! :roll:

That way it would no longer be just innocent Americans who get slaughtered by absolutist Democrat stupidity and treason.
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So the neighbors of these politicians in these communities you want to release the prisoners into are not innocent? Talk about logic!
 
EgoffTib said:
Good thing that, unlike yourself, most people are sensible.
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Pulling troops out of Iraq to accomodate terrorists who just murdered and maimed 2,000 of your citizens (Spain), is not sensible. Revealing intelligence confirming that Saddam was an urgent threat only to turn around and refuse to participate in his removal simply because he owes you money (France, Germany) is not sensible.

Handing over the world's most dangerous terrorists to people with such notoriously bad judgment is perfectly sensible. Sorry you can't comprehend that.

:shrug:

EgoffTib said:
Brilliant plan!
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Thank you. :2bow:

EgoffTib said:
So the neighbors of these politicians in these communities you want to release the prisoners into are not innocent? Talk about logic!
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So, advocating putting the terrorists Democrats release only in their neighborhoods so that someone other than just innocent Americans can pay the price for Democrat treason and stupidity is claiming that no one in those neighborhoods are innocent?

Way to think it through there, Sparky. :bravo:
 
aquapub said:
Pulling troops out of Iraq to accomodate terrorists who just murdered and maimed 2,000 of your citizens (Spain), is not sensible. Revealing intelligence confirming that Saddam was an urgent threat only to turn around and refuse to participate in his removal simply because he owes you money (France, Germany) is not sensible.

Handing over the world's most dangerous terrorists to people with such notoriously bad judgment is perfectly sensible. Sorry you can't comprehend that.

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Yeah, let's just release them into the communities of people you do not like. Sorry you cannot grasp the foolishness of that decision. :lol:


So, advocating putting the terrorists Democrats release only in their neighborhoods so that someone other than just innocent Americans can pay the price for Democrat treason and stupidity is claiming that no one in those neighborhoods are innocent?
Way to think it through there, Sparky. :bravo:
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Stick me with me on this one. You said this:

That way it would no longer be just innocent Americans who get slaughtered by absolutist Democrat stupidity and treason.

If we put terrorists into the communities of Democrats who voted against the Patriot Act, the war, etc., then innocents would be dying of YOUR stupidity. Well done.
 
If you mean close Gitmo like move the prisoners to the US, fine. I don't see this being that big of a deal. If you mean close Gitmo like shutdown the Naval base, then no. bad idea.
 
EgoffTib said:
Yeah, let's just release them into the communities of people you do not like. Sorry you cannot grasp the foolishness of that decision.
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There are plenty of people I don't like, who I would never propose releasing terrorists in the neighborhoods of. But since liberals are always the ones rooting for terrorists and trying to release them, while never actually having to be the ones to pay the price for their treason and stupidity, it should be them and their families who have to endure the costs, not the rest of the people, who are generally intelligent enough to oppose such lunacy.

Incidentally, as should have been plainly obvious, I was being facetious when I proposed this. :roll:

EgoffTib said:
Stick me with me on this one. You said this:

That way it would no longer be just innocent Americans who get slaughtered by absolutist Democrat stupidity and treason.

If we put terrorists into the communities of Democrats who voted against the Patriot Act, the war, etc., then innocents would be dying of YOUR stupidity. Well done.
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You almost got it right. What would actually happen is that, instead of Democrats releasing terrorists and everyone else having to suffer, the same terrorists would still be released, only they would be released in areas far more likely to impact the imbeciles who thought releasing them sounded like a good idea.

Let it sink in for a minute. You'll get it eventually. :2wave:
 
aquapub said:
There are plenty of people I don't like, who I would never propose releasing terrorists in the neighborhoods of. But since liberals are always the ones rooting for terrorists and trying to release them
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Really? They are always rooting for terrorists? The Liberal argument is that there are people in Gitmo who are NOT terrorists. Maybe you should read up on that.

while never actually having to be the ones to pay the price for their treason and stupidity, it should be them and their families who have to endure the costs, not the rest of the people, who are generally intelligent enough to oppose such lunacy.
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Treason? It's hardly treasonous to want a fair trial to be had for those in Gitmo. Your partisan blinders are absurd.

You almost got it right. What would actually happen is that, instead of Democrats releasing terrorists and everyone else having to suffer, the same terrorists would still be released, only they would be released in areas far more likely to impact the imbeciles who thought releasing them sounded like a good idea.
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They would also harm people who had no involvement with the Democrats. I understand you were being facetious, but it was hardly amusing. Simply more partisan hatred.
 
JoeMama said:
aquapub sorry for that, I got scared. I went on a rant...
forgive me for that misunderstanding i shouldve made sure I knew exactly what you are saying. :Oopsie
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aquapub said:
No harm, no foul. :beer:
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:roll: What a hypocrite! Every single time anyone disagrees with you aquapub and gets heated up, they are just crazy liberals who can't do nothing but rant and rave and have no comprehension of what you are talking about. Yet, when one of your own does it, it's all good.
 
EgoffTib said:
ABC News: Exclusive: Innocent Men in Legal Limbo Still at Gitmo
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...you could argue that Benazir Bhutto might well be alive today if only Abdullah Mehsud had not been let loose from Guantanamo, where he plainly belonged, regardless of what the bleaters and hand-wringers thought about that.

But, as our Washington man James Gordon Meek today reports, Mehsud convinced somebody in charge down Gitmo way that he was naught but some poor innocent swept up in the fog of war and unjustly jugged. Such a big meanie the U.S. government was for persecuting so harmless a fellow. And so he went free, one of about 450 Gitmo detainees disimprisoned in the past few years.
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Freed to kill again
 
EgoffTib said:
Really? They are always rooting for terrorists? The Liberal argument is that there are people in Gitmo who are NOT terrorists. Maybe you should read up on that.
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I have. And since almost every single detainee there is is a member of al Qaida, captured in Afghanistan, it is clear that they are blatantly misrepresenting the facts to defend terrorists, as they always do. When we've cleared terrorists or discovered that they were technically American citizens, we've treated them released them or prosecuted them.

Liberals have simply invented a controversy where there isn't one, again, to defend Muslim terrorists.

EgoffTib said:
Treason? It's hardly treasonous to want a fair trial to be had for those in Gitmo.
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For enemies captured in a war, yes, such idiotic rooting for the enemy very much IS treasonous. We've recaptured dozens of these terrorists killing our troops again in Afghanistan.

EgoffTib said:
Your partisan blinders are absurd.
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Ditto.

EgoffTib said:
They would also harm people who had no involvement with the Democrats.
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Right. It is less terrible for innocent people AND THE DEMOCRATS WHO RELEASED TERRORISTS to get hurt by those terrorists than for just innocent people to get hurt. Democrats need to experience the consequences of their policies just once. It will turn them into Republicans overnight.

EgoffTib said:
Simply more partisan hatred.
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Objecting to non-stop Democrat treason is a sign of intelligence and self-preservation.
 
americanwoman said:
:roll: What a hypocrite! Every single time anyone disagrees with you aquapub and gets heated up, they are just crazy liberals who can't do nothing but rant and rave and have no comprehension of what you are talking about. Yet, when one of your own does it, it's all good.
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It was an honest misunderstanding by someone with an IQ above single-digits, who apologized. That's nothing like being grilled by ignorant half-wits who blame you for their mistakes and refuse to admit when they are wrong.

Nice try. ;)
 
aquapub said:
It was an honest misunderstanding by someone with an IQ above single-digits, who apologized. That's nothing like being grilled by ignorant half-wits who blame you for their mistakes and refuse to admit when they are wrong.

Nice try. ;)
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:rofl

Very amusing, to say the least.
 
Southern Man said:
That was merely one example. What if the slimy bastard killed you or someone that you knew? And Bhutto was an important figure, wasn't she?
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Again I ask, would you rather we just keep them all locked up? That way, innocent people get screwed but you sleep soundly at night?
 
EgoffTib said:
So 450 are released and you have one that ended up killing someone? :doh
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Um...no.

The executive order was just signed today, and of the ones that were already released, dozens have already been recaptured fighting our troops with al Qaida. The families of every soldier that dies from this left-wing idiocy should have the right to sue the Democrats who got him killed.
 
EgoffTib said:
Again I ask, would you rather we just keep them all locked up? That way, innocent people get screwed but you sleep soundly at night?
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There ARE no innocent terrorists captured on the battlefield killing our troops with al Qaida. Releasing even one is madness.
 
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