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    Re: Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    So you would rather continue torturing them until Iraq is over? Keeping them imprisoned for years?
    Wait did I say torture them?


    Shall we be thankful McCain didn't win then? In Iraq for 100 years indeed
    I think McCain wants to close GITMO....

    Lets say we wait until Iraq is over.
    When they are found innocent, how much do you think US Govt. should pay them for reparations?

    Nothing. War is hell. You get over it.


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    Re: Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    50 % yes , 50% no...The no`s have it. The people voteing yes will have their wish all to soon. Tis a new day dawning with all the potential of those days of liberal rule from 1992 thru 2000. Remember all the terror attacks under Bill Cliton. Terrorism and the rapid spread of Islams war lust.

    I would have rather had 16 years of Clinton than 8 of Bush. Say what you want about Clinton but it was the Clinton military that went into Afghanistan.

    Not Bush. By that I mean the military that Clinton policies built and maintained. Bush simply used it. The Coalitions that Bush built were made possible by the good will that Clinton garnered for the US. Bush simply frittered all that away. Clinton was a respected politician around the world. Bush is seen as bumbling fool. Even during the blow job scandal he had more support from world leaders and people overseas than he did at home. Nelson Mandela even spoke for him. Could you see Mandela speaking for George Bush with his humans rights record? I do believe that if Clinton were president for the last 8 years we would not be be up to our neck in Iraq with another generation of PTSD victims.

    Clinton policies actually produced positive results in Bosnia and Kosovo. Saddam was contained. We were building a relation ship of trust in the middle east. One time Arab antagonists were slowly changing their long held stances against Israel. Economic surpluses. yeah that damn Clinton he really screwed up the country.

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    Re: Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Wait did I say torture them?

    I think McCain wants to close GITMO....

    Nothing. War is hell. You get over it.
    Torture is happening in there regardless so you would rather they continue being locked up in that hell for a few more years until US finally withdraws from Iraq? Why should they suffer for US's lack of morality

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    Re: Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Torture is happening in there regardless so you would rather they continue being locked up in that hell for a few more years until US finally withdraws from Iraq? Why should they suffer for US's lack of morality


    It is? right this very moment? Says who?


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    Re: Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    It is? right this very moment? Says who?
    Are you denying it has occured and the likelihood of it still happening is high

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    Re: Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Are you denying it has occured and the likelihood of it still happening is high


    I am asking you to back up your claim.


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    Re: Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I am asking you to back up your claim.
    That torture has occured? Sure.

    2004
    Further Detainee Abuse Alleged (washingtonpost.com)

    They say military personnel beat and kicked them while they had hoods on their heads and tight shackles on their legs, left them in freezing temperatures and stifling heat, subjected them to repeated, prolonged rectal exams and paraded them naked around the prison as military police snapped pictures.
    2005
    US acknowledges torture at Guantanamo; in Iraq, Afghanistan - UN - Forbes.com

    Washington has, for the first time, acknowledged to the United Nations that prisoners have been tortured at US detention centres in Guantanamo Bay, as well as Afghanistan and Iraq, a UN source said.
    2007
    FBI files detail GuantĂ¡namo torture tactics | World news | guardian.co.uk

    Captives at Guantánamo Bay were chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor for 18 hours or more, urinating and defecating on themselves, an FBI report has revealed.
    The accounts of mistreatment were contained in FBI documents released yesterday (pdf) as part of a lawsuit involving the American Civil Liberties Union, a civil liberties group.

    Besides being shackled to the floor, detainees were subjected to extremes of temperature. One witness said he saw a barefoot detainee shaking with cold because the air conditioning had bought the temperature close to freezing.
    Is your own FBI lying?

    US judge Susan Crawford admits torture tactics in Guantanamo

    'One of them made cuts in my penis. I was in agony' | UK news | The Guardian

    Top Bush aides pushed for Guantánamo torture | World news | The Guardian

    This has been going on for years and you are foolish enough to think it has suddenly stopped?

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    Re: Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

    Hmm you said right now. it's 2009....


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    Re: Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Hmm you said right now. it's 2009....
    This has been going on for years and you what? Suddenly think because its 2009 the sick guards would have stopped abuse? How niave are you?

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    Re: Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    This has been going on for years and you what? Suddenly think because its 2009 the sick guards would have stopped abuse? How niave are you?



    The "sick guards" are US troops you know...



    Do you have anything current or are you going with a few isolated incidents?


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