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Whats your beliefs ?

Iam a/an :

  • Christian

    Votes: 9 24.3%

  • Muslim

    Votes: 2 5.4%

  • Hindu

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Buddhist

    Votes: 1 2.7%

  • Sikhi

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jew

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Spiritist

    Votes: 2 5.4%

  • Other religionist

    Votes: 6 16.2%

  • Non-Religious

    Votes: 6 16.2%

  • Athiest

    Votes: 11 29.7%
  • Total voters
    37
DivineComedy said:
Since you have no belief, therefore, you do not exist.
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I don't believe I exist. I know I exist. If you don't believe you exist. That's cool too I guess.
 
You can tell when someone truly stops believeing because their posts will suddenly dissap
 
earthworm said:
Aren't there any Holy Rollers here ?

I did not vote, as I dislike labels, OK for machines, not good for man.
Ahmed, all men are biased, some a little some a lot...
You are not a machine or an android, are you ?
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Nope,
didn't got the reason why you hadn't voted :confused:
 
Ahmed Shaheen said:
What is it about ?
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It is about maintaining the web of right relationships, by treating people as their personal honor and your relationship to them in society demand. I pay reverence to my ancestors and the Reginn (ordered beings, gods) and try to conduct myself virtuously to bring honor and respect to myself and my family.

I believe that moral virtue not only preserves my good name, but that it also strengthens my soul and brings good luck and prosperity not only to myself, but my friends and my family and everyone in my network of social obligations.

The virtues I believe in can best be summed up by the Nine Noble Virtues, and the concepts of Örlog, Wyrd, and Hamingja described on that page fit as well-- though I don't share the belief that a single family hails from a single god.

The Daoist influence comes about by viewing the world as the product of different flows of energy, which I believe refines and expands upon many of the concepts found within my native Ásatrú. Life exists in opposing and complementary forces, which drive the cycles of everything from the stars in their orbits, to the flow of blood in our veins, and the cycle of death and rebirth.

My ethics and my understanding of social obligation are also influenced by Confucian thought, though I disagree with the Confucian understanding of the relationship between husband and wife. In general, I view the web of right relationships as more reciprocal than hierarchical, even in relationships of authority.
 
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btw, Athiests are more than Christians by 1 ! :)
 
Ahmed Shaheen said:
Hi everybody,
I've got an idea about having a clear statics of members' beliefs ..
Am not making this poll to have a strong-debate or something, at all !
Am just trying to get the real statics for the site members.
Of course I (like every member here) believes that with the variety of beliefs, and although that we had some arguments most of the time, but we still hadn't lost the soul of respectful discussion and debate :).

Infact I got confused for some time about ordering the religions in the poll, but I took the order from the "World Percentage Of Adherents By Religion" so no one could say that Iam Biased to any religion.



Note: You are not forced to vote !
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I believe there is a God in some form. I just think it is sad how humans around the world made groups or "clicks" and formed a bunch of weird branches of religion.
 
Interesting that there is a difference between this poll results and the ones in the religious forum a few months ago. Obviously a lot of the more Christian members did not show up to vote in that poll.
 
Kal'Stang said:
:mrgreen:

I put non-religious. While I don't belong to any religion I do believe in God. I'm assuming you put that in there for people like me because of our earlier discussion? :mrgreen:
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Agnostic. Like myself.

It's not that I don't believe in god, I just don't fully subscribe to any set "Religions" path.

Put quite nicely in "Hot Fuzz"

I'm open to the concept, I'm just not entirely convinced.
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Wessexman said:
To have belief you must exist.
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Correct, operative word “you“; to have belief YOU must have self-awareness.

The claim was:

“Atheism is not a belief.” (Hatuey)

“: one who believes that there is no deity”
atheist - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary {see last sentence}

“No. Atheism is not a belief. I know I'm an atheist. You can not believe in atheism because there is nothing to believe in. No Gods, religious doctrines, laws etc. Why is it that you can say you believe in God, Allah, Shiva whomever but I can't say : I believe in atheism? There's your answer. Atheism is not a belief.” (Hatuey)

“...when based on examination of evidence...”
belief - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

If a lack of evidence is enough for thinking something, it is a belief. If he knows he is an atheist he either knows there is no God or he believes there is no God; if one believes it is a belief, if one knows they should share the evidence of what lies everywhere in the universe.

“Since you have no belief, therefore, you do not exist.”

“I don't believe I exist. I know I exist.” (Hatuey)

The operative words in the argument were the words “you,” as in self; I think, therefore, I am.

{By the way I am Hatuey’s Dreen, and I was drunk when thought him up.}

The atheist has a belief in no god, or an arrogant knowledge most likely unable to explain the uncertainty principle or quantum computers, but the agnostic does not know. If the atheist does not have a belief they are ignorantly an agnostic or they possess a belief that they have knowledge (kept from many). Even the agnostic believes they do not know, but that does not qualify as a belief/faith.

“1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable ; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god”
agnostic - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

I wish they would at least link to the “liberal” dictionary they use...it might make debate easier.
 
DivineComedy said:
Correct, operative word “you“; to have belief YOU must have self-awareness.

The claim was:

“Atheism is not a belief.” (Hatuey)

“: one who believes that there is no deity”
atheist - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary {see last sentence}

“No. Atheism is not a belief. I know I'm an atheist. You can not believe in atheism because there is nothing to believe in. No Gods, religious doctrines, laws etc. Why is it that you can say you believe in God, Allah, Shiva whomever but I can't say : I believe in atheism? There's your answer. Atheism is not a belief.” (Hatuey)

“...when based on examination of evidence...”
belief - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

If a lack of evidence is enough for thinking something, it is a belief. If he knows he is an atheist he either knows there is no God or he believes there is no God; if one believes it is a belief, if one knows they should share the evidence of what lies everywhere in the universe.

“Since you have no belief, therefore, you do not exist.”

“I don't believe I exist. I know I exist.” (Hatuey)

The operative words in the argument were the words “you,” as in self; I think, therefore, I am.

{By the way I am Hatuey’s Dreen, and I was drunk when thought him up.}

The atheist has a belief in no god, or an arrogant knowledge most likely unable to explain the uncertainty principle or quantum computers, but the agnostic does not know. If the atheist does not have a belief they are ignorantly an agnostic or they possess a belief that they have knowledge (kept from many). Even the agnostic believes they do not know, but that does not qualify as a belief/faith.

“1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable ; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god”
agnostic - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

I wish they would at least link to the “liberal” dictionary they use...it might make debate easier.
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Wrong. I don't "believe there is no god". I simply lack belief in any god. Atheism is "I don't believe", not "I believe".
 
rivrrat said:
I simply lack belief in any god.
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That sounds more like agnostic, and not atheist.

Disbelief graduates to a belief when “disbelief” says something does not and cannot exist anywhere; Atheism it is not a lack of any belief it is belief unless you have proof.

Have you been to any of the other universes yet? How do you know there is no God in any of them?

I am just trying to be nice and preserve that other member’s tax exempt status. I am sure the advanced accounting department of the IRS will “splain” to you it is not a belief, but what the hell:

First Church of Atheism

PS. If I disappear I might still believe in God, and it may not be my..., it might be my disbelief in Debate Politics Forum’s official Prophet.
 
DivineComedy said:
That sounds more like agnostic, and not atheist.
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No, I have no doubt in my lack of belief in any gods, fairies, the easter bunny, santa, or cupid. I don't believe in any of them.

Disbelief graduates to a belief when “disbelief” says something does not and cannot exist anywhere; Atheism it is not a lack of any belief it is belief unless you have proof.
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Incorrect, it is a lack of belief. I know this because I am an atheist.

Have you been to any of the other universes yet? How do you know there is no God in any of them?
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Not yet, but I hope to one day. If there is a god/dess in any of them, I certainly hope he/she's not the bastard described in some of our ancient fairy tales.

I am just trying to be nice and preserve that other member’s tax exempt status. I am sure the advanced accounting department of the IRS will “splain” to you it is not a belief, but what the hell:
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I don't need them to 'splain to me it's not a belief. I already know quite well that it's not. :mrgreen:

First Church of Atheism
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Those people are idiots just trying to prove a point.
 
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Hatuey said:
No. Atheism is not a belief. I know I'm an atheist. You can not believe in atheism because there is nothing to believe in. No Gods, religious doctrines, laws etc. Why is it that you can say you believe in God, Allah, Shiva whomever but I can't say : I believe in atheism? There's your answer. Atheism is not a belief.
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atheists believe in their ability to smell bull**** from a mile away.
 
Ahmed Shaheen said:
Hi everybody,
I've got an idea about having a clear statics of members' beliefs ..
Am not making this poll to have a strong-debate or something, at all !
Am just trying to get the real statics for the site members.
Of course I (like every member here) believes that with the variety of beliefs, and although that we had some arguments most of the time, but we still hadn't lost the soul of respectful discussion and debate :).

Infact I got confused for some time about ordering the religions in the poll, but I took the order from the "World Percentage Of Adherents By Religion" so no one could say that Iam Biased to any religion.



Note: You are not forced to vote !
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I believe the universe is full of life and it is just another human stepping stone to discover it. Not too long ago people on parts of the planet believed the world was flat, the sun revolved around the earth, etc. So this is just the next step.

That being said I still cannot rule out the possibility of there being a God of somekind because everything had to start somehow. So yes, I like to believe there is a God.

Sorry, not sure what religion that would be under?
 
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