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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    The option I would choose is not there. Driving while using a cell phone should be banned unless you are using a hands free device. In several states (including mine) you will get ticketed if you are caught talking on a cell without being hands free.
    I think studies have shown that holding the phone is not the problem. There is no significant difference between holding the phone while talking and using a hands free device. It's concentrating on the conversation that causes the distraction.

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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Is having a cell phone pressed to your ear while behind the wheel the equivalent of driving while intoxicated? According to a study by University of Utah psychologists, the answer is, unfortunately, yes.

    "Just like you put yourself and other people at risk when you drive drunk, you put yourself and others at risk when you use a cell phone and drive," writes David Strayer, a psychology professor and the study's lead author. "The level of impairment is very similar."

    The study, published in the June 29 issue of Human Factors: The Journal of the Human Factors and Ergonomics Society, found that drivers talking on cell phones, either handheld or hands-free, are more likely to crash because they are distracted by conversation.

    Using a driving simulator under four different conditions: with no distractions, using a handheld cell phone, talking on a hands-free cell phone, and while intoxicated to the 0.08 percent blood-alcohol level, 40 participants followed a simulated pace car that braked intermittently.

    Researchers found that the drivers on cell phones drove more slowly, braked more slowly and were more likely to crash. In fact, the three participants who collided into the pace car were chatting away. None of the drunken drivers crashed.

    "This study does not mean people should start driving drunk," said co-author Frank Drews. "It means that driving while talking on a cell phone is as bad as or maybe worse than driving drunk, which is completely unacceptable and cannot be tolerated by society."

    Preliminary results from the study were announced three years ago.
    Cell phones as dangerous as drunk driving

    If we don't allow drunk driving why should we allow using cell phones while driving? Hands free or not?
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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    I think studies have shown that holding the phone is not the problem. There is no significant difference between holding the phone while talking and using a hands free device. It's concentrating on the conversation that causes the distraction.
    it is a little more complicated then that because you can have conversations with passengers and not have the same level of incidents.

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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    it is a little more complicated then that because you can have conversations with passengers and not have the same level of incidents.
    I was only commenting on the studies comparing hands free vs non-hands free.

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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Onion Eater View Post
    Why do you believe that? By your own account, you've never had an accident.
    Because I have always used a hands free device.

    This is a point that I've made elsewhere. I trust only in what I see with my own eyes.
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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Gee...I wonder what in the world people that worked before cell phones ever did!
    Very poor argument. Just because we didn't have cell phones 50 years ago does not negate their worth or importance of use, today. They are an invaluable tool that allows us to be more efficient.

    But here are some questions that perhaps you can answer:

    How did we ever commute to work before automobiles?
    How did we ever understand or obtain knowledge of world events before the printing press?
    How did we ever know what time it was before the watch?
    How did we ever entertain ourselves before the internet?

    The answer to all of these questions is the same. We did. Less efficiently and the world was smaller for each of us.

    In other words why not make the time? Are those buisness deals really worth a life?
    Do not assume I am making business deals. Because of my job, often my cell phone calls may be saving a life. And, I may be traveling somewhere to do the same thing.
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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    I think studies have shown that holding the phone is not the problem. There is no significant difference between holding the phone while talking and using a hands free device. It's concentrating on the conversation that causes the distraction.
    This may be true in regards to distractions, however, having both hands on the wheel is also a factor. I'm not sure if this has been studied, but, logically, driving with two hands is safer than one.
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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Cell phones as dangerous as drunk driving

    If we don't allow drunk driving why should we allow using cell phones while driving? Hands free or not?
    Having located the actual studies, I'm going to peruse them for validity testing.
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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    As a precursor, my initial findings show there is a confound in all of the research done by Dr. David Strayer of the University of Utah, the major player in cell phone and driving research. All of the participants in his studies are undergraduates. These are 18-22 year olds. We know that this age group tend to handle distractions more poorly than older folks, both because of their brain biology and because they are less experienced drivers.

    More later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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