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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    My post makes perfect sense when one notices the jester simile at the top of it and realizes that I'm satiring a major pro-abortion argument

    I appreciate you responses and I plan to use them when I encounter the "there's to many people on the planet" abortion argument again
    Using a post concerning cell phones to support [not support?] a pro abortion argument? yeah that makes about as much sense as your original post.

    As to challenging other people in a public setting concerning tithes and faith works,

    Mt 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
    Mt 6:2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
    Mt 6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
    Mt 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
    Perhaps instead of clinging to your bible you should spend more time reading it and avoid asking such offensive questions of people again in the future. Be sure to save this post for your future satire also.

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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    How is it different than talking on a CB radio?
    It isn't and the reason I used rolf is you bring back and old memory. I had a friend of mine back in the late 70's that had a station wagon and he got into the CB craze. Within 6 months his wagon was dinged bent scraped up and had he to use bungee cords to hold the hood down because it was sprung from a head on collision. That is not even counting how many times he wound up stuck in a ditch.

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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    Using a post concerning cell phones to support [not support?] a pro abortion argument? yeah that makes about as much sense as your original post.
    = perfect sense. I'm glad we agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    As to challenging other people in a public setting concerning tithes and faith works,

    Perhaps instead of clinging to your bible you should spend more time reading it and avoid asking such offensive questions of people again in the future. Be sure to save this post for your future satire also.

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    No no, see, the jester simile means it's not a serious post...you get it?...you don't...oh well.

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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    = perfect sense. I'm glad we agree.



    No no, see, the jester simile means it's not a serious post...you get it?...you don't...oh well.
    I take my beliefs seriously and you are not funny...you get it?...you don't...oh well.

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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    I take my beliefs seriously and you are not funny...you get it?...you don't...oh well.

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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    How is it different than talking on a CB radio? Or talking to passengers - adults or children alike?
    The difference is that with a cell phone you have the sound RIGHT next in your ear. Directly in it with a hands free device. It's MUCH harder to ignore something directly in your ear than it is to ignore something that is comeing from the other side of the car or a speaker.

    Heres a little test you can do. Get two chairs and set them a bit apart to simulate the inside of a car. Have someone sit in one and you sit in the other. Take a head set and set one side of it over your ear. Turn on some music from your player. Be it computer, cd player whatever. Put the sound to about 3 or the relative amount of sound that comes from a cell phone. Listen to the music and have a conversation with the person next to you. Record everything that is said with the person next to you. After about 20 mins worth of talking stop. Turn of the music take of the head set. Then play back what you recorded. See how much you can remember of the conversation.

    Now repeat the test without the headset and have the music playing in the background like you would in a car while talking to someone. At the end replay the recording to see how much you remember of it.

    Notice a difference? And thats without driving...
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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The difference is that with a cell phone you have the sound RIGHT next in your ear. Directly in it with a hands free device. It's MUCH harder to ignore something directly in your ear than it is to ignore something that is comeing from the other side of the car or a speaker.

    Heres a little test you can do. Get two chairs and set them a bit apart to simulate the inside of a car. Have someone sit in one and you sit in the other. Take a head set and set one side of it over your ear. Turn on some music from your player. Be it computer, cd player whatever. Put the sound to about 3 or the relative amount of sound that comes from a cell phone. Listen to the music and have a conversation with the person next to you. Record everything that is said with the person next to you. After about 20 mins worth of talking stop. Turn of the music take of the head set. Then play back what you recorded. See how much you can remember of the conversation.

    Now repeat the test without the headset and have the music playing in the background like you would in a car while talking to someone. At the end replay the recording to see how much you remember of it.

    Notice a difference? And thats without driving...
    Apparently you've never taken a department call while carefully making a tight turn with a2 ton load 30 feet in the air; or worked a fast-food drive through where you have to memorize a few orders given over your headset while calling product while packing other orders while fixing an error on a front till.

    Dead-end jobs have their uses, apparently teaching basic life skills is one of them.

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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Apparently you've never taken a department call while carefully making a tight turn with a2 ton load 30 feet in the air; .
    An intelligent driver would wait until they had completed the turn and the vehicle was in a safe condition before answering the call.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    or worked a fast-food drive through where you have to memorize a few orders given over your headset while calling product while packing other orders while fixing an error on a front till.

    Dead-end jobs have their uses, apparently teaching basic life skills is one of them.
    Which is why they use the repeat back method because they usually screw it up a little bit.

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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    An intelligent driver would wait until they had completed the turn and the vehicle was in a safe condition before answering the call.
    Oh flame, that's original

    Apparently you've never been in that situation either. Operating power equipment is all feel and uses different parts of your brain then a spoken conversation. As long as one has enough neurological ram and mental processing power, it's no problem.

    I had to do similar things while operating bridge cranes, only the loads were in excess of 2 tons and the operator had no choice but keep close proximity to other people around him.

    I've never had an accident on any power equipment, so if that makes my unintelligent according to you, I'll take it.


    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    Which is why they use the repeat back method because they usually screw it up a little bit.

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    Right...you have to do that while doing everything else..which has confused many a customer at the front counter who thought I was repeating their order from the front till back to them when I was in fact repeating the drive-through order back to the car at the speaker from memory.

    When it came to correcting till errors, honestly I didn't read the keys I was pressing. I had done the same overrides etc so many times that is was 99% muscle memory.

    Sometimes I would repeat back a drive though order while packing a front order, and the customer at the front would get pissy because they thought I was repeating their order and getting a lot of it wrong

    Here I am doing many things at once and a customer who's doing nothing at all looses track of what's going on.

    Add driving on top of that and it's a wonder these people get from point A to point B at all
    Last edited by Jerry; 01-20-09 at 03:22 AM.

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    Re: Cell Phone while driving

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    How is it different than talking on a CB radio? Or talking to passengers - adults or children alike?
    Don't know about the CW, however, you talk to people in the car they can see what is going on around you and when things get hairy, they know because they can see it and calm down. That isn't true when on the phone. I know from experience that dealing with my family in the car is not nearly as distracting as talking with someone on a cell phone is.
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