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Thread: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I am clearly aware of that, but I was talking about "outside criticism", like you Americans constantly bash anything that isn't complete democracy and capitalism as something bad,
    Because it is?

    obviously overlooking the flaws of those models itself.
    Such as?

    Especially socialism gets a lot of Americans to bash on it, and communism.. Socialism is fantastic, communism has many positive traits that Americans could learn from..
    Ummm no they don't. Name me a single country that practices 'communism' and hasn't turned it into a ****hole. Cuba, North Korea, China. All nightmares in the political world. No dissidence allowed. No real freedom of speech or unjustified government persecution. The majority of posters here weren't alive to see Cuba go from Capitalist dream to Communist hellhole. However we're seeing it in Venezuela and most of us are already weary of what 'socialism' and 'communism' do to a society. It enslaves them for the good of everyone else. I'm not talking about making something like health care universal. I'm talking about all the other **** that 'communists' do.

    But when you get criticized like this you always draw the "anti-American"
    card..
    Could be because you are indeed anti-American. Or are we going to pretend like none of us here have read your posts for the last 2 years?
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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Are Americans "allergic" and get "seizures" if someone mentions a reality about America which isnt positive?

    Interesting question, because many Americans use the "victim" card every time someone says someone about America which isn't positive, and always brand it "anti-American", justifiably or unjustifiably. The question really is, do Americans call the "anti-American" "victim" card to easily?
    Your question is inoperative.

    Americans don't play the victim card whenever some negative is cited about her. In fact, we have a very healthy segment of our population that seems to have beomce employed in the professional grievance industry blaming the US specifically for x, y, z, and whatever else they can think of.

    And not all criticism of America is countered with a charge that citing something not positive about the US is anti-American. In fact, on all of the boards I have posted on, I rarely see such a response.

    So your poll is garbage.

    You want to try again?

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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I am clearly aware of that, but I was talking about "outside criticism", like you Americans constantly bash anything that isn't complete democracy and capitalism as something bad, obviously overlooking the flaws of those models itself.
    Especially socialism gets a lot of Americans to bash on it, and communism.. Socialism is fantastic, communism has many positive traits that Americans could learn from..

    But when you get criticized like this you always draw the "anti-American" card..
    Are you always confused by a single tree in the forest?

    Your comments here suggest that you really have no real impressions of Americans, just gross caricatures based on...well, I don't know what you're basing it on.

    In the absence of such real impressions then your comments appear to be merely an attempt to slam Americans as if they portray themselves as helpless victims.

    Socialism is fantastic? Communism has positive traits? How so and like what?

    I mean, looking the results of both no civilized people would permit themselves to be governed in either way. It's no surprise then that socialist and communist societies are totalitarian...

    No thanks.

    You can keep believing that socialism and communism have some positive attributes, however, those attributes do not overcome the obvious brutal and violent nature of such governance.

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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    What we have in this thread is Maximus Zeebra trying to blame his last 2 years of anti-American Capitalism/pro-European Socialism rhetoric on this forum, on a perceived allergy he believes Americans have to foreign criticism.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that the ONLY proof he has to justify this theory is all those threads in which he was told he was anti-American on this forum. But let's examine the issue in detail shall we?

    First the question :

    Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    The keywords are in bold. Are we allergic to the realities in America which are negative?

    I wonder what would make Zeebra think that but in any case this is easily refuted by the very existence of this forum. Where over the years, thousands of Americans both right and left in the political spectrum have come here to voice their grievances on many American issues. I've kept reading and then somewhere along the way after this little fact was brought up the question changed to it being a matter of outside criticism.

    I don't know how we're allergic to outside criticism considering we're members of hundreds of treaties, accords etc etc with other countries that bring in criticism from other nations. Why would a country that is 'allergic' to criticism get so involved with the rest of the world? Why would we put ourselves in the position of being the MOST criticized country on this earth if we are allergic to such criticism? It seems like the reality does not match the beliefs of Zeebra.

    And so this brings us to the last spin by Zeebra on the matter. Socialism and Communism being 'anti-American'. Of COURSE Socialism and Communism are anti-American. Name me a single country who's adopted true Socialism and Communism and hasnt been Anti-American or for that matter anti-West? You can't. The cult like followings communist/socialist groups build are pretty much rooted in hate for anything even remotely connected to America and by extension the West. Add to this the anti-American ideas of restricting freedom of speech, government persecution for dissent and complete government choke holds on everything from property rights to the rights of business owners and you have yourself a recipe for all that which is anti-American.

    We can play a game and act like none of us here on this forum have read Zeebra rant on and on about how bad America is and how great Europe is even though their problems with racism are more pronounced(France), even though they have Big Brother programs(UK), even though they have bigger immigration problems we do. But we won't. We'll all read this thread for what it is. Maximus Zeebra trying to play the victim card about how mean some Americans in this forum are because they see right through his rhetoric.
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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I guess. If your goal is to totally disregard what was actually said and just troll, then sure.
    Since its you and I really care to listen to your opinion on non-political issues, then I will surely listen this time..
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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Have you noticed how there are plenty of foreigners on this forum who criticize the United States, yet don't evoke the same reaction that you do? Perhaps this has more to do with the fact that you're an obnoxious douchebag, rather than the substance of your criticism.
    I don't care if you guys are sensitive. I only tell the truth.. I do this to people also, if I think they are stupid assholes I rather tell them directly in their face than talk behind their backs like most people(I never do that). Guess that just makes me an honest asshole. So be it.

    Everything that I am saying is valid concerns.. I never just say negative stuff about the US just because its negative, or just because I want to say negative stuff about the US.
    This is a political forum, you should learn to handle the reality, even if its negative.
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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Since its you and I really care to listen to your opinion on non-political issues, then I will surely listen this time..
    Troll much?

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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Add to this the anti-American ideas of restricting freedom of speech, government persecution for dissent and complete government choke holds on everything from property rights to the rights of business owners and you have yourself a recipe for all that which is anti-American.
    But, but, but...you're missing all the good things that come with socialism and communism...

    Little to no political dissent.
    The government can take immediate action.
    Days-long lines for food staples.
    Health care for everyone.

    LMAO!!!


    Maximus Zeebra trying to play the victim card about how mean some Americans in this forum are because they see right through his rhetoric.
    Word!

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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Americans don't like it when they get generalized in a way that makes us seem like automotons. We have a diversity of opinions not represented by our governemnt, and most Americans are truly bothered by that.

    We are not "allergic" to criticism, we are "allergic" to overgeneralizations about us as though we a simply a cut and paste society with no diversity.

    Much like many people in the various European nations are bothered by the broad overgeneralizations of Europeans that some Americans make.

    Nobody likes to be pigeonholed by a person who is biased against their nation. If I were to say "Europeans are wishy-washy elitists who love to bend over and inhale deeply of the pungent aroma of their own flatulence while maturbating vigorously to their own sense of self-worth" I would be completely wrong.

    That is only the stereotype, and although it is often true that there is a small portion of the population that embodies a stereotype, it is usually not the majority, just a small portion.
    I NEVER draw the "anti-European" card, and sure a LOT of people here whine and tells me how bad socialism is and how much better the US is than France in particular, or Europe. I never draw an "anti-France" card, and those comments are mostly more invalid and anti-French than any of my American comments. My American comments are based on news and perspectives in politics, I am not just saying it because I want to bash America, if I wanted to do that I would just list all the negative things about the US, which I certainly do not.

    If I am anti-America, then I am certainly anti-European and anti-Norwegian and anti-French as well, because I have equal opinions on those pathetic political systems as I do the pathetic political system in the US, and the pathetic ways the economies are built and managed. As for Norway, I even have worse opinions about Norwegian politics and governance than the US. The US at least does something right, Norway doesn't do ANYTHING right, the politicians I mean.
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