View Poll Results: Are Americans "allergic" to negatives realities about the US?

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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    What is "socialist" to you?
    Its sharing of resources to put it simple, that everyone work for the greater good. With free health care everyone contribute(to make it free) and everyone is entitled to receive(for free).
    That however doesn't mean that a country with free health care is completely socialist, but free health care is definetely a socialist function and concept.

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    What don't I understand, then?
    Because every time you describe what I say, you have clearly misunderstood. Most of the time it actually seems you do this on purpose just to be a jackass.
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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    Fascism is not a ringt-wing phenomenom. Certainly, we have been taught that fascism is right-wing, but that's the results of years of historical revisionism. The origins of fascism as a right-wing ideology starts in the 30s when communists sought to discredit fascists and they attempted to do so by calling it right wing. The only problem is that fascism shares far more in common with socialism and communism than anything on the right.



    These are contradictory statements. Yes, we are taught from high school through general survey course work in college that fascism is a right-wing ideology. However, if we recognize that contemporary American conservatism is classical liberalism, then you cannot simultaneously hold that fascism is a right-wing, i.e., liberal, ideology. You just cannot.
    In Europe fascism is DEFINITELY a right wing thing. It is only endorsed and promoted by the far right, often the same people who fear other cultures, races and so on, and people who are against socialism and communism in all forms.. Often these people are more pro-American than the general European people, because they support such things as the free market and capitalism so strongly. As for democracy I dont know their stands on this, but certainly the neo-fascists(possibly not the same as the people described above) are strongly in favor of ONLY democracy, and keep nagging on about it like nothing else existed, or that a mixed type of government isnt possible.. Thats just my experience with European fascists, and my knowledge about them in general. They also tend to be nationalistic(often pro local), and anti EU.
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    Re: Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    If modern and progressive is to represented by the EU's elitism and attempts to completely undermine democracy and national sovereignty in Europe, well, you can have that modernity and progressivism all to yourselves.

    I note that you still have nothing at all to say about the EU's attempts to bypass national sovereignty and democratic processes in order to impose the EU Constitution on the European people via treaty negotiations. Why not?
    Hey, the Lisbon strategy deeply bothers me as well.. But please, really.. What is so damn good about democracy, please let me know, write a list or something why a society should be completely a democracy, and not a democracy with a mix of other state forms as well.. Having a partly elitist government is a damn good thing, having one party with independents like China is better than having a two sided multi party system or a straight two party system, which always just fights the other side, rather than for the people and the nation.
    I will not say the negatives about democracy until you have given me the list and reasons why democracy is so fantastic in your opinion.. Please already leave out that it empowers the people, because it doesnt really, it certainly do not empower the individuals. Now please tell me why we should not mix a bunch of other things into democracy to make a more hybrid model to remove the weaknesses of democracy and introduce the strengths of other models.

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