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    Re: Should AIPAC be outlawed in US?

    AIPAC is an American group, not a foreign lobbying group. In fact, AIPAC is often at odds with the Israeli government in terms of policy.

    Like all American political groups, they have the right to petition the government and the rights to free assembly and free speech.
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    Re: Should AIPAC be outlawed in US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billo_Really View Post
    We got enough problems dealing with other governments, we don't need to deal with them within our own government. I'm sick of foreign goverments creating lobby groups in the US to enact legislation that benefits their agenda to the detriment of US interests.

    It is not in the interest of the US to stand by Israel and shield them from being held responsible for their atrocities and armed aggression. I don't want my tax dollars going to spending time on Capitol Hill to find ways that allow Israel to violate international law.

    So I think their lobby group AIPAC, should be outlawed and prevented from lobbying any member of Congress.
    I think lobby groups of foreign countries and foreign businesses in general should be banned. They are not Americans citizens and those with split loyalties shouldn't be petitioning us for anything. So our constitution shouldn't apply to them.They should not have any right to lobby our government IE us the American people for anything because our politicians are supposed to be kissing our ass not that of other countries.
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    Re: Should AIPAC be outlawed in US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I don't think they should be outlawed, but their powers equalized to that of all other foreign lobbying groups. IMO I think they get special privileges.
    Really? And how would you accomplish that?
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    Re: Should AIPAC be outlawed in US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billo_Really View Post
    Why else would they have influence with government officials if they didn't contribute to their coffers. No one in government is going to listen to a special interest group without some sort of personal benefit.
    I know this is going to blow your mind. But maybe they actually agree with their situation? Maybe they believe that its in the interest of the US to support Israel? Maybe this is the one bit of backbone that they actually have? I know its crazy but lets suspend disbelief for a minute.
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    Re: Should AIPAC be outlawed in US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billo_Really View Post
    We got enough problems dealing with other governments, we don't need to deal with them within our own government. I'm sick of foreign goverments creating lobby groups in the US to enact legislation that benefits their agenda to the detriment of US interests.

    It is not in the interest of the US to stand by Israel and shield them from being held responsible for their atrocities and armed aggression. I don't want my tax dollars going to spending time on Capitol Hill to find ways that allow Israel to violate international law.

    So I think their lobby group AIPAC, should be outlawed and prevented from lobbying any member of Congress.
    Can we also ban CAIR?

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    Re: Should AIPAC be outlawed in US?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    What about every other interest group that lobbies Congress, representing basically every country on the planet? Is there something specific about AIPAC that you find objectionable, as opposed to everyone else?
    I love the "interest group" label.
    Anyone find it interesting, how "interest groups" only oppose, and never support, your particular ideology?

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    Re: Should AIPAC be outlawed in US?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post

    I think I've heard this refrain from you before...
    Affirmative to that.

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    Re: Should AIPAC be outlawed in US?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think lobby groups of foreign countries and foreign businesses in general should be banned. They are not Americans citizens and those with split loyalties shouldn't be petitioning us for anything. So our constitution shouldn't apply to them.They should not have any right to lobby our government IE us the American people for anything because our politicians are supposed to be kissing our ass not that of other countries.
    Serious question: Did you read any of the posts in this thread?
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    Re: Should AIPAC be outlawed in US?

    They right to Freedom of Speech so I say no.
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    Re: Should AIPAC be outlawed in US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billo_Really View Post
    Why else would they have influence with government officials if they didn't contribute to their coffers. No one in government is going to listen to a special interest group without some sort of personal benefit. And I'm not talking about bribery. There is a reason why Washington listens to special interest. And that reason always is based monetarily.
    No it's not. I'm reading this thread so I don't know if this has already been addressed, but lobbying groups don't have near the power that most people think they do. Yes, they can and do sometimes provide Senators and Representatives with perks but they hardly provide enough to twist their opinion in any significant way. Almost exclusively they lobby to Senators or Representatives who most likely would have voted for them anyway and try and sway neutral ones by providing pertinent information on subjects that they may not know a lot about. While lobbying groups almost always get a bad rap they are a good institution.
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