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    Re: Do you strive to be average?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The species needs above-average leaders. Not necessarily "look at me" types, but people who strive to be stronger, faster, smarter than the pack. When the average person runs the group, the average group winds up as lion food, evolutionally speaking.
    There were enough people here sticking up for the exceptional.

    It is imperative to have both types of people. You have got to have the majority average person willing to follow the exceptional or nothing exceptional is ever going to happen.

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    Re: Do you strive to be average?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    There were enough people here sticking up for the exceptional.

    It is imperative to have both types of people. You have got to have the majority average person willing to follow the exceptional or nothing exceptional is ever going to happen.
    I agree with that.
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    Re: Do you strive to be average?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    There were enough people here sticking up for the exceptional.

    It is imperative to have both types of people. You have got to have the majority average person willing to follow the exceptional or nothing exceptional is ever going to happen.
    Well actually, you can be both kinds of person. I find when I am motivated by something, I almost always perform exceptionally in that role. But things that don't hold my interest, I remain average at. So if you see me walking down the street, dressed the way I do, you would never think there is anything exceptional about me. If you sat me down with an avionics schematic, and asked me to troubleshoot a problem, you would have a different opinion of whether or not I am exceptional.
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    Re: Do you strive to be average?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    There were enough people here sticking up for the exceptional.

    It is imperative to have both types of people. You have got to have the majority average person willing to follow the exceptional or nothing exceptional is ever going to happen.
    If everyone is 'exceptiona' then, by definition, everyone is average.

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    Re: Do you strive to be average?

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Maybe those people who shop at wlamart could care less about why they are shopping there and not Macy's. I mean when we get down to it it's all the same,and it all spends the same. Fabric is Fabric. The labels don't make you any better or smarter. Everyone has different prioties. Maybe the guy drinking the crappy beer, actually LIKES the taste of his beer. Now, I agree with you on the value of education part.

    Sure things are different. I said nothing about me being better, I just like things that don't all apart in 5 months and I like food that tastes good and is good for me. Cosco bulk products are largely crap. Wal Mart is generally junk. No biggy. My $3,000 Fary Fisher MB (bought in 1996) doesn't make me better, it is just a better mountain bike than some crappy $500 one from Wal Mart. That is all. I can hit massive air, my shocks and brakes last longer, work better, etc. we eat organic, in general, and that food is simply better than processed crap. My friend would buy 5 little Mama Celeste pizzas for $5 and they were crap. I would make my own and put fresh ingrediants on it. Does it make me better? Heck no, but It is better for me, tastes better, etc. He called me a snob, I just thought it tasted better and was better for me.. what is wrong with that? The beer thing, yeah one guy I know loved MGD. Whatchya gonna do?
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    Re: Do you strive to be average?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Whatever. I think in their own minds most everyone sort of scoffs at the idea that they themselves are average. Yet, most of us actually are hardly note worthy in the big picture of human experience.
    Well, there is average and there is average...

    Am I just an average guy? Most likely... But what is average really?
    I'm a male... lots of those.
    I'm white... nothing special there.
    I'm American... 300 million of those.
    At this point, I'm not going into the history books for anything, and even if my dad and I publish, that doesn't mean much either...

    I do extreme sports. Big Wave surfing, extreme downhill mountain biking, free rock climbing, big wave bodysurfing 20+ feet, to name a few... is that "average"?
    I have a double major, and a Masters... is that "average"?
    We own our own business... is that "average"?
    I am a volunteer fire fighter and have helped save the lives, personally, of 6 people... is that "average"?
    I used to teach inner city gang youth and incarcerated juvenile offenders... is that "average"?
    I have lived in three different countries and in both hemispheres... is that "average"?

    In the end, I will die, my daughters will live on but even they will and we will all be dust in the Earth. *shrugs*

    If all humanity died, the earth will just go on truckin, not caring...

    Earth itself, though, I doubt is average... sure, it is a planet, but how many can support life? out of the 8 in our Solar System, only one can, that is not avegage...
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    Re: Do you strive to be average?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Earth itself, though, I doubt is average... sure, it is a planet, but how many can support life? out of the 8 in our Solar System, only one can, that is not avegage...
    It sounds like you should join our discussion at http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...hostile-9.html

    The average response to that question was an unwavering belief in - held with practically religious fervor - the existence of hyperintelligent little green men who (Of course!) have the ability to traverse hundreds of light years of open space by the simple expedient of hitting the "warp drive" button in the cockpit of their spaceship.

    I argued that creatures with comparable intelligence to ourselves are far from average and, even if they did exist, they couldn't possibly cross interstellar space.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Any alien species advanced enough to have conquered intergalactic space travel wouldn't be interested enough in our primitive, war-mongering society to contact us. There are trillions of planets in the universe capable of nurturing intelligent life. We'd be mathematical idiots to deny the odds. However, if they did wish to do so, they would clearly have enough firepower to wipe out our planet as easily as we can wipe out a nest of termites. We overestimate our importance in the grand scheme of things, methinks.

    Humans=the arrogance of the inferior.
    Sorry DiAnna - I don't mean to single you out - but you get to be the spokesperson for the "average" opinion on this question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Onion Eater View Post
    I am not a mathematical idiot - I actually have a degree in the subject - and I can tell you that the odds aren't quite that good. There was a series of rather improbable and fortuitous events that occurred to make Earth inhabitable...

    Is the universe a big enough place for this series of events to occur twice?

    Short answer: Not bloody likely, though not completely impossible either.

    Okay, even making the huge logical leap that intelligent life exists elsewhere, what is the chance that they will come here? And bring enough ordinance to wipe out our planet like a nest of termites?

    Short answer: None. The distances are just too great.
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    No tax raises needed, just have the federal government spend the money into existence.

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    Re: Do you strive to be average?

    I strive to accomplish my personal goals, and dreams.

    I never think in terms of average or not average.

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    Re: Do you strive to be average?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I'm getting older... Being "unaverage", whether in a good or bad way, takes a lot of energy and I don't have as much energy as I did when I was younger.
    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Yes, but you are still quite young, I think.
    You really do lose interest in that sort of thing, once you reach your 30s.
    There are always going to be people who do it so much better and more effectively than you. And by the time you're 30, they're all dead.
    You're in your thirties????

    All that talk of getting older and losing your energy had me picturing you as a dottery seventy-year-old. Now I (42) really feel old! If you were here in this room with me, I'd hit you with my cane!

    Seriously, in my field, economics, most of the major contributions were made by people 31 years old:

    Carl Menger, Principles of Economics; age 31

    Ludwig Mises, Theory of Money and Credit; age 31

    Friedrich Hayek, Prices and Production; age 31

    Victor Aguilar, Axiomatic Theory of Economics; age 33, though I was 31 when I sent it to the printer.

    Of these people, none went on to greatness in middle age. The muse came to them and then she went. Hopefully, their biographies will show you young'uns some of the pitfalls that lay ahead of you.

    Menger spent the rest of his life refusing to allow his Principles to be re-printed because he was on the verge of writing his magnum opus. He finally died in his eighties without ever writing it. Today, Menger's Principles is considered one of the most important economics books ever. Nobody is really sure why he wouldn't let it be re-printed during his lifetime or what improvements he thought his never-to-be-written magnum opus would include.

    Mises made little contribution to economics after Money and Credit until he was ressurected by the fame of his student, Hayek, in the thirties. In 1949 Mises wrote Human Action, intended to be his magnum opus, at the age of 68. (Admittedly, getting chased out of Austria by the Nazis and then spending the war years learning English in a New York apartment caused unavoidable delays.) Human Action was a thick and ostensibly scholarly book, but it fell far short of Money and Credit in original contributions and conspicuously failed to correct the problems in Money and Credit. After that, Mises became a bitter old man and wrote a series of low quality papers targeted to the cult that was forming around him.

    Hayek took England by storm when he arrived from Vienna to give a series of lectures at the London School of Economics in the 1930-31 school year. Prices and Production was the transcript of his lecture notes. (His accent was too thick for his students to understand his lectures without notes.) But lecture notes aren't intended to be a magnum opus. Hayek tried and failed to write a systematic treatise, leaving us today with Prices and Production as his only work in economics. After the war, Hayek gave up economics and turned to political philosophy, at which he had more success.

    At FRIEDRICH AUGUST VON HAYEK we read, "Hayek attempted to work a new system in his Pure Theory of Capital (1941), which he originally envisioned as a part of a larger work. In it, he attempted to develop a joint theory of investment and capital. Inexplicably, his 1941 book fell dead-born from the press and proved to be his last substantial effort in the area of theoretical Neoclassical economics." Honestly, I tried reading Pure Theory of Capital and found it dense and uninspired. Admittedly, publishing only months before the attack on Pearl Harbor was unlucky timing but, it is also true that, by 1941, the muse had left Hayek behind - she comes and then she goes.

    I published Axiomatic Theory of Economics a decade ago and, I can tell you, if it were somehow lost and I had to write it again, it would never happen. I just wouldn't have the energy to go though all that again. I can remember the mountains I climbed, but I cannot remember where I found the energy I consumed in climbing them. Now I spend my time promoting my theory on the internet. Hopefully, I won't become a bitter old man like Mises or fall to the siren song of catering to the sycophants in society who are always trying to form a cult around someone.

    On the subject of this thread, striving to be normal, I have a page on my website that addresses this topic in a humorous way: Has anything like Axiomatic Economics been done before?
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    No tax raises needed, just have the federal government spend the money into existence.

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    Re: Do you strive to be average?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am smart enough to know I am not stupid, or average, but not smart enough to be lost in my own little genius world. Like you, I want to understand more. But you know, the more you know, the less yuou understand.

    I agree. Average or below people are many times so damn content and happy. They don't know better, like a dog. Mean, but accurate. They just go about, watching football, drinking ****ty beer, shopping at Walmart and Cosco for crappy food and products, not caring or even understanding that there are alternatives. Sitting in the same job, dealing with the same crap... not understanding the value of an education, so their kids repeat the process. Etc.
    I envy stupid people, their lives seem so easy, and they have no cares at all. Average people are in the same boat, while smart people naturally have to suffer because everyone else is so damned stupid compared with them. Also, is it not difficult to be smart in a world which is created for stupid people?

    Imagine how Einsteins life was. No one freaking understood him, except a very small group of smart people. No wonder he was anti-social and crazy.
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