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    Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    From time to time I get indications there are people who believe the main goal of Islamic domination is to kill or convert us. I have long believed, however, that the true main goal is to captivate us.

    This passage from a Front Page Magazine interview with Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) and spokesman for PoliticalIslam.com illustrates the idea well:

    The Koran of Mecca has 67% of its text devoted to how the kafirs (unbelievers) must submit to Allah/ Mohammed.

    Then in Medina, Mohammed’s message became political, and he became violent without limits towards kafirs. Mohammed made all the Jews of Medina submit to him by robbery, murder, war, assassinations, rape, torture, executions, exile and enslavement.

    After he had subdued all of the kafirs in Medina, Mohammed attacked the Jews of Khaybar. By now he realized that you could make more money from a live kafir than from a dead one. Kafirs can be enslaved, but the slave option has a disadvantage. Slaves have to be managed and be near at hand. So Mohammed created the dhimmi. The dhimmi agrees to live in a world that is dominated by Islam in all public areas. A dhimmi is free from Islam only in his own home. Law, customs, art, education, the media, government, speech and every thing in public space is Islamic. In addition, the dhimmi has to pay a tax to Islam called the jizya tax. In Khaybar the jizya tax was 50%.

    The key psychological technique is that the dhimmi is to be humiliated in all possible ways. In effect, the dhimmi is halfway between freedom and slavery, a semi-slave.

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    The goal, I believe is to captivate us and much of the tax money that goes now to Washington to pay for defense, for example, would instead go to Mecca.

    That's how I see it. But what about you?

    What do you think?
    Last edited by bhkad; 01-08-09 at 06:24 AM.

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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Depends. What do you mean by "Islam"? The text of the Qur'an, or the various diverse adherents of the religion today?
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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Depends. What do you mean by "Islam"? The text of the Qur'an, or the various diverse adherents of the religion today?
    You can help educate the readership by explaining both. Thank you.


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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Islams main goal is to follow the Koran..


    Why would you believe any of the absurd options you have put up there? What you are probably referring to is a tiny minority of Muslims... Just like a tiny minority of Christians are extremists as well..

    Another question.. What is the main goal of Christianity? To poison us with low morals and constant lies?


    This poll is absurd.. So is the source.. You dont expect us to post sources from one sided and racists magazines?
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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    You can help educate the readership by explaining both. Thank you.

    Well the Qur'an certainly has a lot of bloodshed in it, and calls to convert people or execute them. However, the same is true of many ancient religious texts. Since most modern adherents of any religion don't follow the ancient texts, I don't think one can judge Islam as it exists today entirely by the Qur'an.

    As for modern Islam...there are so many different beliefs WITHIN Islam that one can't really generalize like that. Islam doesn't really HAVE a single goal. There are certainly plenty of extremists like al-Qaeda which seek to wind the clock back to the sixth century and kill all the infidels. There are plenty of other groups which are just as violent but not as extreme, such as Hamas, which basically just use religion as a pretext for their political struggles which have little to do with Islam itself. There are also many reformers who seek to expand Islam's sphere of influence through modernization and making the religion attractive to encourage people to convert.
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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Islams main goal is to follow the Koran..


    Why would you believe any of the absurd options you have put up there? What you are probably referring to is a tiny minority of Muslims... Just like a tiny minority of Christians are extremists as well..

    Another question.. What is the main goal of Christianity? To poison us with low morals and constant lies?


    This poll is absurd.. So is the source.. You dont expect us to post sources from one sided and racists magazines?


    Your opinion and orientation are, both, noted here.

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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    We only seem to want to talk about "them" and what their doing.

    We never want to talk about "us" and what we are doing, to "them".

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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Islam and the followers are too diverse to have a specific goal.

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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Islam and the followers are too diverse to have a specific goal.
    Don't you want to kill us???

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