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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Who has a "right" to exist? And since when does either Israel or Palestine care about rights of the opposition during war?
    Why should Israel care about the opposition anyway? These people have no regard for the Israeli citizens (including muslims and christians) so why should Israeli's have to be so concerned with something like that? That kind of attitude loses wars, and lives during a war.

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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by Radical Ron View Post
    Why should Israel care about the opposition anyway? These people have no regard for the Israeli citizens (including muslims and christians) so why should Israeli's have to be so concerned with something like that? That kind of attitude loses wars, and lives during a war.
    That was my point, that neither of them gives a damn about the other.
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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post

    You are talking like if Islam said to hit them in your Leisure time, Islam said to hit wives if they sinned a big sin, where is the disrespect on that ?
    I guess that's fair according to Koran 4:34.

    What do you feel is a big sin?
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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    From time to time I get indications there are people who believe the main goal of Islamic domination is to kill or convert us. I have long believed, however, that the true main goal is to captivate us.

    This passage from a Front Page Magazine interview with Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) and spokesman for PoliticalIslam.com illustrates the idea well:



    The goal, I believe is to captivate us and much of the tax money that goes now to Washington to pay for defense, for example, would instead go to Mecca.

    That's how I see it. But what about you?

    What do you think?
    seems like the u.s. is doing most of the killing though. 1 million dead iraqis compared to 4000 americans. why dont you cancel the defence budget entirely right now so that the money cant get to mecca. be one step ahead of them.

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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by cope2 View Post

    seems like the u.s. is doing most of the killing though. 1 million dead iraqis compared to 4000 americans. why dont you cancel the defence budget entirely right now so that the money cant get to mecca. be one step ahead of them.
    But who do you think HAS done most of the killing in Iraq?
    I'd say Sunni v Shia quite handily.
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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    But who do you think HAS done most of the killing in Iraq?
    I'd say Sunni v Shia quite handily.
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    more iraqis have died in 5yrs of u.s. occupation than in 25 yrs under sadam. coincidence?

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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by cope2 View Post
    more iraqis have died in 5yrs of u.s. occupation than in 25 yrs under sadam. coincidence?
    you know why?

    because saddam hussein controlled the population through fear, you divulge in sectarian violence, and he'd kill you and your immediate family, sorta discouraged that sort of thing.

    now there is no rule of fear, and people are letting old prejudices get the better of them, sunni v shi'ite v kurd, it will take a while to get the country under control, that happens in wars.
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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    you know why?

    because saddam hussein controlled the population through fear, you divulge in sectarian violence, and he'd kill you and your immediate family, sorta discouraged that sort of thing.

    now there is no rule of fear, and people are letting old prejudices get the better of them, sunni v shi'ite v kurd, it will take a while to get the country under control, that happens in wars.
    No matter When Iraq freed themsleves of Saddam (and/or his sons 30 years from now) there was going to be problems.

    'Iraq' was never meant to be. A Britsh 'whim' state consisting of three disparate entities.
    Our biggest mistake was not splitting into 3 states. For many reasons including our ally Turkey refused, and would have attacked new 'Kurdistan'.

    JUST as Yugoslavia went to Hell after Tito/Their strongman... these peoples let it fly. Welcome to freedom.
    Of course, we had to go There After the Fact. (!)

    It could be argued, having US troops there actually lessened the inevitable death toll and shortened a civil war that could just be hitting Full stride now (and went on forever), were it NOT for our presence.
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    Re: Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    It could be argued, having US troops there actually lessened the inevitable death toll and shortened a civil war that could just be hitting Full stride now (and went on forever), were it NOT for our presence.
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    It could also be argued that we should stop meddling in other people's countries.
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