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    Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schools?

    Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schools?


    I say no, activist have no business in schools period. School is about education so you can later provide for yourself,not indoctrination.


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    NORTH WILKESBORO, N.C. (AP) -- The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit against a rural North Carolina school system that barred a peace activist from talking to high school students about alternatives to joining the military.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schoo

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schools?


    I say no, activist have no business in schools period. School is about education so you can later provide for yourself,not indoctrination.


    TBO.com - News From AP

    NORTH WILKESBORO, N.C. (AP) -- The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit against a rural North Carolina school system that barred a peace activist from talking to high school students about alternatives to joining the military.
    Isn't being an activist all about "educating". Given many activists go overboard and lose sight of real education, they generally are seeking to bring a topic to the attention of the public, not indoctrinate.

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    Re: Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schoo

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schools?


    I say no, activist have no business in schools period. School is about education so you can later provide for yourself,not indoctrination.


    TBO.com - News From AP

    NORTH WILKESBORO, N.C. (AP) -- The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit against a rural North Carolina school system that barred a peace activist from talking to high school students about alternatives to joining the military.
    As long as activists from both sides are invited I cant see the problem. Also i woudnt agree that merely presenting students with a given point of view amounts to indoctrination. If it does then it hasnt been very effective, as im sure many who have been to religious schools will testify.

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    Re: Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schoo

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Isn't being an activist all about "educating". Given many activists go overboard and lose sight of real education, they generally are seeking to bring a topic to the attention of the public, not indoctrinate.
    The problem is that activism as it stands currently is about indoctrination, wheras school is supposed to be a place of learning, not simply facts or ideas, but how to critically analyze and apply them. Activism uses half-information, propaganda, and sometimes misinformation based on opinion to get a point across, there is nothing intrinsically educational about that, so no, they shouldn't have access to institutions of learning. I apply the standard to all activists BTW, not just the one's I disagree with.
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    Re: Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schoo

    Let the school decide who is allowed onto their campus to come and speak. They can actually vet the individual people who want to come on campus, which is a hell of a lot more accurate than us trying to generalize all activists on the internet. I have met plenty of activists who are reasonable people who believe in cause, and plenty who are damned crazy. This is a case where you actually have to trust the school's judgment.

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    Re: Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schoo

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schools?


    I say no, activist have no business in schools period. School is about education so you can later provide for yourself,not indoctrination.


    TBO.com - News From AP

    NORTH WILKESBORO, N.C. (AP) -- The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit against a rural North Carolina school system that barred a peace activist from talking to high school students about alternatives to joining the military.
    If the military and military recruiters are allowed into the school, then yes the other side should be allowed in too.
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    Re: Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schoo

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    The problem is that activism as it stands currently is about indoctrination, wheras school is supposed to be a place of learning, not simply facts or ideas, but how to critically analyze and apply them. Activism uses half-information, propaganda, and sometimes misinformation based on opinion to get a point across, there is nothing intrinsically educational about that, so no, they shouldn't have access to institutions of learning. I apply the standard to all activists BTW, not just the one's I disagree with.
    This is a common misconception. "Activism" has a negative meaning attached to it in this day and age. I would consider MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) an activist group. They seek to bring an issue into the public eye.

    Obviously there are other types of activism, which have no place in schools, but this should not restrict schools from introducing the term in a real-life way. Activism is not limited to issues of controversy, some are just to bring attention to a topic the public would otherwise be clueless to.

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    Re: Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schoo

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schools?
    I say no. already enough time is wasted in public schools and kids are getting dumber. give them a pop quiz instead.

    the only time we had military recruiters at my high school was at Career Day or college fairs, not coming to speak during class time. let the peace corps or whoever recruit kids that way. schools don't need to endorse their message by giving them exclusive time and requiring students to pay attention to their spiel. just make sure their message isn't objectionable and let them set up a table next to the army's table.

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    Re: Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schoo

    Yes, they should. Supposedly, our schools are intended to prepare our youngest generation for the future and their careers; if those activists are from the Peace Corps or another organization that does offer a meaningful future, they should be allowed to speak and recruit on-campus.

    Right next to the military, various colleges, and any other organization in which the students can find both purpose and the means to support themselves and their families.

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    Re: Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schoo

    this from the article:

    "The lawsuit, filed Monday, says the Wilkes County school district and its superintendent violated the First Amendment by preventing Sally Ferrell from distributing pamphlets and other materials that warn students to think twice before joining the military."

    this is not pro-peace corps or pro-anything, it is just anti-military.

    as far as I'm concerned, this lady doesn't need to be pushing her political agenda on the kids. she's not offering them any career or educational opportunities.

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