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  • The raid will be a success: I think they have a chance to get rid of the Hamas

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  • The raid may weaken the Hamas but that's not going to prevent them from launching rockets next week

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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by DivineComedy View Post
    Unconditional surrender of the Palestinian/Hamas Terrorist State is not going to happen. Queen NOOR, and the rest of the fecal encephalitic morons or inhuman Satanic “liberal” monsters, will push for a cease-fire to give Hamas a chance to be seen as providing the so-called Palestinians the good life.

    All a fat old Israeli General can do is lament they did not kill Arafat...

    If you see the Secretary-General shaking hands with a leader of Hezbollah or Hamas, if there is never any collateral damage trying to kill it Israel is not seeking peace. I saw an “it” on TV today, kill it and the CNN team too.

    If only we made their life good, and the belly of their army marching full, the so-called Palestinians would stop choosing to support or be Black Stone Idolaters who talk to rocks and trees to find Jews to kill.

    What makes Israel worthy to be destroyed just to end this once and for all is their “liberal” filth, that is the majority of their so-called civilization, that couldn‘t kill Arafat when it needed killing.
    I think one solution could be that Egypt(friends of the Palestinians) gave them a piece of land in the North of the Sinai peninsula. They don't need much space after all, and Egypt have plenty of space. The climate, the landscape and everything is the same there as the west bank and gaza..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I think one solution could be that Egypt(friends of the Palestinians) gave them a piece of land in the North of the Sinai peninsula. They don't need much space after all, and Egypt have plenty of space. The climate, the landscape and everything is the same there as the west bank and gaza..
    Seems like one rational solution, and I am sure there are many seemingly rational solutions, but reason and logic does not always work well with hate, bigotry, racism, and religion. No need to mention anti-Semitism because Arabs cannot be anti-Semites. We have some land out West the Jews might like too. Some would say 1948 was a mistake, the Palestinians should have declared independence first and been recognized as a State by us First.

    Israel is not getting the promised land, and if we the people of earth are smart the so-called “Palestinians” will get less than back to the Green Line and no right of return. They both must prove they can live in peace, or we should by law forbid any of their kind from ever visiting any space colony where they could pop the bubble. Why should a nice elderly guy like you have his butt probed for a salami bomb, before boarding the spacecraft, due to an ongoing Palestinian/Israeli problem? What is rational is not always moral, and morality depends upon the observer.

    Arabs/Palestinians can be Black Stone Idolaters who talk to rocks and trees, which we are supposed to respect is a rational thing to do. I can accept an invisible God by faith, but I am not talking to no rock or making it part of my faith. Moslems thought Catholics were exceeding the limits with the trinity and all those recycled Mary/Venus statues, mixing them up with unbelievers, pagans, and idolaters, while Islam was ignoring how a “prophet” said to pray (which made sense he would be all knowing and not like Satanic paranoia bread of not getting up fast enough from mechanized prayer to be seen of men), which fits with Moslems talking to rocks and trees. Rational is a more simple sentence, but reason does not fit the breathlessness of this ongoing insanity.

    Israel going back to the Green Line seems rational and logical too. It is so easy to tell Israel to quit the occupation, any idiot can say it. Israel was already there, and it was not good enough. The PLO predates the Green Line. Pictures of Jews given access to their Temple Wall, in compliance with international law, only happened through war, which was all after the UN peacekeepers were withdrawn from Egypt knowing war would happen. Going even further back to the borders of 1948, according to the partition, with more than up to the Green Line for Palestinians, was not good enough for Islamifascism and their “Christian” dogs (with the tiny politically correct door to “humble” Christians {something unknown to Christianity, hell you can see the door was bigger}, as it was not to keep humiliating riders out), that is why we have the phrase “right of return.” Sorry, I did it again, I am breathless with this idiocy. A partition more generous to the so-called “Palestinians” was not good enough, when they could have had it.

    In essence the aggressors want to return to the borders that existed before they aggressed, then they claim they will be happy and at peace.

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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Israel will progress into Gaza further than just stopping the rockets in the open areas. It will substain alot of Soldier casulties possibly deaths, Civilian deaths will also increase.
    Wanna make a bet? I'll bet less than 10 Israeli soldiers are killed.
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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    I think the only way to "wipe out" Hamas (and any successor) is to commit complete genocide, which would make Israel worthy of a "wipe out" as well.

    Secularism is the solution for the region, not more violence. When people stop bickering over who's god is the celestial real estate broker, then you'll see an end to this conflict that goes back for centuries.
    I disagree. It's all going to be about who owns the land. Even without the religious divide the Palestinians will still want their own country and Israel still won't want to give it to them.
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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Do you think the IDF could get rid of the Hamas with it ground offensive? Why/why not?

    What's going to happen according to you?
    While I don't think it is possible to eliminate Hamas directly through conventional warfare, the Ground Invasion is the only move that could lead to the downfall of Hamas. An occupation of Gaza with stress on security/policing instead of demolishing of infrastructure would foster moderate voices to come forward. It is the moderate voice of Gaza that will lead to the downfall of Hamas.

    For those that don't believe such a voice exists, consider the inner party assassinations and violence when Hamas and Fatah were in the same political system. The moderate voices do exist, they're just being suppressed by Hamas with no outside support.

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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    I disagree. It's all going to be about who owns the land. Even without the religious divide the Palestinians will still want their own country and Israel still won't want to give it to them.
    Well, Israel is actually one of the very few countries that are "certified" by history as belonging to a certain people. They only actually took back what has always been described as theirs(at least for 5000 years), meaning that someone invaded them. Not many other countries can claim the same as Jews can about Israel...

    Just in all actual fairness the west bank at least belongs to Israel, Israel which is suppose to be from the Mediterranean to the Jordan rivers and the inland oceans. Gaza has ALWAYS been a conflict spot, and I do not think it has ever been recognized as a part of Israel, rather having been described in old scriptures as a place of resistance. Correct me if I am wrong.
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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    I disagree. It's all going to be about who owns the land. Even without the religious divide the Palestinians will still want their own country and Israel still won't want to give it to them.
    Israel is tiny.. Palestinians came from Egypt(and Syria) in the first place and invaded parts of Israel, why not give them a small part of Egypt(and Syria) instead, problem solved. Egypt is a huge country.
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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Israel is tiny.. Palestinians came from Egypt(and Syria) in the first place and invaded parts of Israel, why not give them a small part of Egypt(and Syria) instead, problem solved. Egypt is a huge country.
    I thought the Palestinians were mostly Jordanian?

    I liked your solution, it's to bad neither side will agree to it.

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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I thought the Palestinians were mostly Jordanian?

    I liked your solution, it's to bad neither side will agree to it.
    Ahh, sorry, the Palestinians on the west bank as far as I knew were Syrians(at least they were the one who invaded Israel a long time ago, and as far as I know stayed), but they are probably a mix or Syrians and Jordanians(and others).
    The ones on Gaza are definetely Egyptians.

    What claims do the Palestinians have on parts of Israel as according to history? They were invaders...

    Probably there will never be a solution, and the fighting will go on. For Israel the only solution would be to decide once for all to drive the Palestinians out. If they do not, everything will continue like it has been. If the Egyptians and Jordanians/Syrians do not give small parts of their huge countries to the Palestinians that is.
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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Ahh, sorry, the Palestinians on the west bank as far as I knew were Syrians(at least they were the one who invaded Israel a long time ago, and as far as I know stayed), but they are probably a mix or Syrians and Jordanians(and others).
    The ones on Gaza are definetely Egyptians.
    OK. I remember reading someplace that they were mostly Jordanians. I don't have enough info to make a definitive statement as to there origin one way or the other.

    Thanks.

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