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  • The raid will be a success: I think they have a chance to get rid of the Hamas

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  • The raid may weaken the Hamas but that's not going to prevent them from launching rockets next week

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Thread: Gaza: what's going to happen?

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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Hamas has zero intrest in peace. If Israel does not eliminate all of Hamas and anyone who sympathizes with Hamas this will continue. Israel will unfortunatly bend to international pressure and will withdraw. Hamas will rearm and recruit new members. Iran will continue to support Hamas and Hezbollah. Eventually Iran will supply Hamas and Hezbollah with TNW's small (Tactical Nuclear Weapons) desighned to be used in a battlefield. Then Iran and much of the Arab world will have accomplished there goal. The destruction of Israel and its people. That IMO is why Israel must completely destroy Hamas and then Hezbollah and any other organization or country thats ultimate goal is the destruction of Israel.


    Sounds pretty radical dosn't it? Well thats exactly what Israel is surrounded by, radicals. Enemies that pray to Allah that the day will come when the Zionist regime will be destroyed. Israel has showed much restraint for it is like a cornered Lion. This is about self preservation at this point and its time to follow the old Jewish saying.

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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I'm leaning somewhere between the second and third options. I'd be surpised if they totally wipe out Hamas and if they do, some other group will pop up eventually to replace it.

    The conflict will eventually stop. No war has ever lasted for ever. There's no need to forcibly change the local culture, things will settle down at some point in time. I hope to see it in my lifetime, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. At this point, unless one side completely gives up, I see no acceptable solutions to this conflict.
    If you hold your breath, your chance of seeing it in your lifetime would be significantly reduced.

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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Why cant it be either or for once? Israel have to decide, one time for all. Are they going in wholeheartedly or just raiding(stalemate) like always? If they do they will be condemned, if they do not the intolerable situation will go on forever..
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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    How do you think they could "crush" the Hamas? It does not look very organized, it's not because you kill the "head" that the members stop fighting or surrender!

    On the contrary, by entering Gaza, the IDF shows the Palestinians that Hamas is right when it says that Israel is a threat to them
    You kill as many of them as it takes for them to either be completely destroyed, or they sign an unconditional surrender. Since I doubt Hamas is willing to "surrender" to Israel, only their complete destruction would suffice. Sure people could still claim to be Hamas in the future, but some people claim to be Nazis to this day. The difference is, they have no power and are marginalized and held in contempt by the cultures they reside in. But this could not happen until Nazis were removed from power. Hating Nazis while they rolled across Europe didn't do any good. Having contempt for them, while they held power saved no lives.

    Do you believe Hamas is right when they tell their populace that Israel is a threat to them? Do you believe, that if Hamas were magically removed from the equation, that Israel would be throwing airstrikes and ground incursions into Palestine just because? What Hamas is doing, is straight out lying. Israel is indeed a threat to Hamas, and when they fire at Hamas, Hamas hides behind their people and claim Israel is being aggressive towards Palestinians. Do you by into their lies as well?

    And to your second point, if Israel allows Hamas to continue to fire rockets into its country with no recourse or action taken against Hamas, and then to agree to negotiations with them, it only serves to embolden and invite future attacks when Hamas wants more. It legitimizes their tactics.
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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    So, the only way to avert genocide in the region is to forcibly eradicate the cultural values of the people living there? How exactly is that better than genocide in the first place?
    Who said anything about "the only way to avert genocide"?

    Do you regard secularism as the "forced eradication of cultural values"? If you regard the notion that the world must be placed under sharia law for example as a "cultural value" then yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Why cant it be either or for once? Israel have to decide, one time for all. Are they going in wholeheartedly or just raiding(stalemate) like always? If they do they will be condemned, if they do not the intolerable situation will go on forever..
    Unconditional surrender of the Palestinian/Hamas Terrorist State is not going to happen. Queen NOOR, and the rest of the fecal encephalitic morons or inhuman Satanic “liberal” monsters, will push for a cease-fire to give Hamas a chance to be seen as providing the so-called Palestinians the good life.

    All a fat old Israeli General can do is lament they did not kill Arafat...

    If you see the Secretary-General shaking hands with a leader of Hezbollah or Hamas, if there is never any collateral damage trying to kill it Israel is not seeking peace. I saw an “it” on TV today, kill it and the CNN team too.

    If only we made their life good, and the belly of their army marching full, the so-called Palestinians would stop choosing to support or be Black Stone Idolaters who talk to rocks and trees to find Jews to kill.

    What makes Israel worthy to be destroyed just to end this once and for all is their “liberal” filth, that is the majority of their so-called civilization, that couldn‘t kill Arafat when it needed killing.

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    Cool Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Do you think the IDF could get rid of the Hamas with it ground offensive? Why/why not?

    What's going to happen according to you?
    As long as “liberals” live, and Jews to, Hamas cannot be gotten rid of for sure.

    A cease-fire will happen before the Geneva Convention parts involving occupation can take effect establishing order and favorable government, from international pressure that civilian disguised Hamas is thirsty and needs food, and the United Nations (of tyrants too) will once again prove to be ineffective unless the Obamanation was lying and Ali Abunimah and Mary Mitchell were right.

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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    I think that this will only bolster HAMAS. This is another event which can be spun and used as a recruiting tool:

    "They came in and attacked our mosques, the holiest of places that we pray to Allah."
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    Cool Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I think that this will only bolster HAMAS. This is another event which can be spun and used as a recruiting tool:

    "They came in and attacked our mosques, the holiest of places that we pray to Allah."
    Hamas and the Palestinians will only hear someone say, “the spanking was wrong.” Israel is a member of a divided household, where sparing the rod spoils the child and using it only make the brat think Israel is wrong.

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    Re: Gaza: what's going to happen?

    As Israel is distracted by rocket fire, Hamas militants sneak out of Gaza city and conquer Tel- Aviv and eventually the world.




    It could happen.

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