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    Re: Death Penalty

    Should have had a button for choosing the first two. I tried and it would only let me choose one. Both of the choices seem in my opinion approprieate.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Who supports abortion but not the death penalty?
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Who supports abortion but not the death penalty?
    I support abortion at the local level, but I would never support government funded abortions or the government performing abortions. The reasons for my beliefs are logical, not emotional.
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I think that the death penalty is driven by emotion, but that logic is used to justify the emotionally driven desire.

    The desire for the death penalty in lieu of more economical and effective means of punishment can only be driven by emotive need for "eye for an eye" justice.

    And the thing is, that revenge IS the purpose of the type of consequence.

    The only reason that the death penalty exists is that people feel that commiting certain heinous crimes makes the criminals deserve to die. Sure, the fact that a punishment is rendered is a consequence, but the driving force behind that type of punishment can only be vengence.

    Vengeance in and of itself is not a bad thing. My issue with the death penalty is that it grants the governemnt the power to exact revenge instead of the people.

    I would be in favor of organized duels before I would favor the death penalty. This could exact revenge without granting extra power to the government.



    Now, let me add, that it is possible to have logical reasons for favoring the death penalty, but emotion is the driving force behind the majority of people's opinions on the issue in either direction (for and against).

    Anti-death penalty types often use the emotional plea of "What about innocent people" when that is a pull at the emotions regarding false imprisonment. While pro-death penalty types typically cite the victim's family and their well-being as a reason for the death penalty.

    This doesn't mean that all people do so, just that the majority do. I rarely encounter truly logical arguments regarding the death penalty from either side.

    Thus, I would say that both sides are driven by emotion, not logic.

    I would not say that is the only way it can be viewed, though.

    Then read or re-read my post a few above yours and will encounter one!
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Then read or re-read my post a few above yours and will encounter one!
    That's why I said "rarely" and not "never"
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    That's why I said "rarely" and not "never"
    Just wanted to bristle my feathers a bit and get some props!
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    Re: Death Penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Just wanted to bristle my feathers a bit and get some props!
    You are one of the few who gives a logical reason for the death panlty in my opinion, as I think I'm one of the few who gives a logical reason against. (bristling my own feathers a bit as well)

    My only problem with the death penalty is that the government being involved with the premeditated killing of its own citizens for any reasons while the people are not allowed to do the same.

    In my opinion, this grants a "overlord" quality to the governemnt. If organized duels were still legal as they were back in teh day, where two parties could engage in a "fight to the death" without the risk of penalty if succesful, my objections to the death penalty would cease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    You are one of the few who gives a logical reason for the death panlty in my opinion, as I think I'm one of the few who gives a logical reason against. (bristling my own feathers a bit as well)

    My only problem with the death penalty is that the government being involved with the premeditated killing of its own citizens for any reasons while the people are not allowed to do the same.

    In my opinion, this grants a "overlord" quality to the governemnt. If organized duels were still legal as they were back in teh day, where two parties could engage in a "fight to the death" without the risk of penalty if succesful, my objections to the death penalty would cease.
    Great addition... and I agree completely.
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