View Poll Results: Why have you decided not to use illegal drugs?

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  • Because I hear horror stories about addiction to them

    15 25.86%
  • Because I know people personally who have suffered from addiction.

    17 29.31%
  • Because I am perfectly happy and serene without them (If it ain't broke...)

    31 53.45%
  • Because the consequences of their being illegal make life miserable for addicts

    12 20.69%
  • Simply because they are illegal

    11 18.97%
  • Other (specify in the thread if you would like)

    20 34.48%
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    are you sure prohibition increased alcohol usage?
    Sure, it was just driven underground where children had access to it. Why would a prohibitionist bartender at a speakeasy card anyone if what they are consuming is illegal?

    Did Alcohol Use Decrease During Alcohol Prohibition?
    Last edited by First Thought; 01-02-09 at 06:14 PM.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Sure, it was just driven undergrowth where children had access to it. Why would a prohibitionist bartender at a speakeasy card anyone if what they are consuming is illegal?

    Did Alcohol Use Decrease During Alcohol Prohibition?
    Not only is the source unreliable, it doesn't say what you think it says.

    In truth, nobody really knows exactly how much alcohol consumption increased or decreased during Prohibition.
    It uses the increased arrest rates to conclude that consumption increased.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Not only is the source unreliable, it doesn't say what you think it says.

    It uses the increased arrest rates to conclude that consumption increased.
    You apparently only read the beginning:

    The figures published by the Department of Commerce in the Statistical Abstract of the United States reflect a different picture. The average annual per capita consumption of hard liquor from 1910-1914, inclusive, was 1.46 proof gallons. "This 5-year period was before the rise of abnormal conditions coincident to the World War and may be taken as fairly indicative of the normal rate of drinking that prevailed in the Pre-Prohibition era" (Rosenbloom, 1935: 51).
    The per capita rate for the Prohibition years is computed to be 1.63 proof gallons. This is 11.64% higher than the Pre-Prohibition rate (Tillitt, 1932: 35). Based on these figures one observer concluded: "And so the drinking which was, in theory, to have been decreased to the vanishing point by Prohibition has, in fact, increased" (Tillitt, 1932: 36).
    AVERAGE AGE AT FORMATION OF DRINK HABIT

    Period 1914---1920-23-1936-37
    Males 21.4----20.6-----23.9
    Females 27.9-25.8-----31.7
    "Inability of the prohibition law to enforce prohibition is causing an increase in the number of young boys and girls who become intoxicated," declared Judge H. C. Spicer of the juvenile court at Akron, Ohio, a short time ago when two boys, aged 15 and 16 years, respectively, were arraigned before him. "During the past two years," he added " there have been more intoxicated children brought into court than ever before.""Inability of the prohibition law to enforce prohibition is causing an increase in the number of young boys and girls who become intoxicated," declared Judge H. C. Spicer of the juvenile court at Akron, Ohio, a short time ago when two boys, aged 15 and 16 years, respectively, were arraigned before him. "During the past two years," he added " there have been more intoxicated children brought into court than ever before."
    Last edited by First Thought; 01-02-09 at 06:22 PM.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Not only is the source unreliable, it doesn't say what you think it says.

    It uses the increased arrest rates to conclude that consumption increased.
    This statement is probably accurate: In truth, nobody really knows exactly how much alcohol consumption increased or decreased during Prohibition.

    However, whether it went down a bit or up a bit, it seems uncontroverted that there was widespread use of alcohol even when it was illegal, just like other legal drugs today.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    You apparently only read the beginning:
    Basically the site says no one knows for sure, but some guy who wrote a book in 1932 says this. The fact that he is able to pull nation-wide statistics on an illegal activity in the 1930s undercuts his credibility.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Basically the site says no one knows for sure, but some guy who wrote a book in 1932 says this. The fact that he is able to pull nation-wide statistics on an illegal activity in the 1930s undercuts his credibility.
    Why? His statistics come from observable events during the time period.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Having a job that requires random drug test can really put a damper on ones vices. You left that choice out of the poll.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Having a job that requires random drug test can really put a damper on ones vices. You left that choice out of the poll.
    OMG, that is a big oversight! Sorry.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    DMT
    Is it everything they say it is?

    Anyway, I'm about to head to basic training in a month or so, so no weed. Everything else is just so expensive compared to alcohol. They're trying to charge $20/g for shrooms these days. ****ing ridiculous.
    down for you is up

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Because I can't get in contact with my dealer at the time?

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