View Poll Results: Why have you decided not to use illegal drugs?

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  • Because I hear horror stories about addiction to them

    15 25.86%
  • Because I know people personally who have suffered from addiction.

    17 29.31%
  • Because I am perfectly happy and serene without them (If it ain't broke...)

    31 53.45%
  • Because the consequences of their being illegal make life miserable for addicts

    12 20.69%
  • Simply because they are illegal

    11 18.97%
  • Other (specify in the thread if you would like)

    20 34.48%
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Something about severely altering my psyche is more disturbing to me than getting lung cancer from smoking 5 packs a day.
    The problem is that you view the alteration of the psyche as an inherently negative thing. It can be both, depending on the intent and mental fortitude of the user.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    What would be the consequences of legalizing drugs?

    -more public use
    -commercialization reduces price, significantly
    -addiction fueled by advertising

    Result: integration with society promotes early and more widespread use.
    Prohibition increased crime and alcohol usage, which would seem to contradict your hypothesis.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    The illegal ones of course.
    And alcohol and prescription drugs aren't a problem?
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    The problem is that you view the alteration of the psyche as an inherently negative thing. It can be both, depending on the intent and mental fortitude of the user.
    As I understand, mental fortitude has nothing to do with it. Every use has effects and most agree they vary widely due to many factors.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    And alcohol and prescription drugs aren't a problem?
    I certainly think they are, too. However, to be fair, I did just ask about the illegal ones in the poll.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    What would be the consequences of legalizing drugs?

    -more public use
    -commercialization reduces price, significantly
    -addiction fueled by advertising

    Result: integration with society promotes early and more widespread use.
    That is true to an extent. On the other hand, as I mentioned, I don't think its likely that there will be hordes of people who will start shooting herion just because it is legalized. I won't. Would you?

    Predicting the degree that use will rise is pretty speculative. We can say that if you want drugs to use, you can get them now and it's not an all or nothing thing.

    The real question is whether the costs associated with prohibition outweigh the costs of legalization. We've already tried that experiment with one highly addictive, health damaging drug -- alcohol, and I think most agree that the costs of prohibition are far greater. I don't see a clear reason why it would be different with other drugs.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    As I understand, mental fortitude has nothing to do with it. Every use has effects and most agree they vary widely due to many factors.
    Mental fortitude and an education on the substance being used can allow you to manipulate the experience in a favorable manner, should something go wrong. Example: A friend of mine had a bad trip on Datura. Through controlled hyperventilation and the application of a moist cloth, he was able to calm himself and transgress beyond the negativity of the trip.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Something about severely altering my psyche is more disturbing to me than getting lung cancer from smoking 5 packs a day.
    Forgive me if I find euphoria much less disturbing than agonizing death...
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Prohibition increased crime and alcohol usage, which would seem to contradict your hypothesis.
    I agree with your statement as to crime, but I'm not sure it is accurate as to alcohol usage. I believe alcohol use did decrease somewhat with prohibition and rise when prohibition was ended.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Prohibition increased crime and alcohol usage, which would seem to contradict your hypothesis.
    are you sure prohibition increased alcohol usage?

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