View Poll Results: Why have you decided not to use illegal drugs?

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  • Because I hear horror stories about addiction to them

    15 25.86%
  • Because I know people personally who have suffered from addiction.

    17 29.31%
  • Because I am perfectly happy and serene without them (If it ain't broke...)

    31 53.45%
  • Because the consequences of their being illegal make life miserable for addicts

    12 20.69%
  • Simply because they are illegal

    11 18.97%
  • Other (specify in the thread if you would like)

    20 34.48%
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Legality is only one factor I consider in whether or not I will use a drug. It makes drugs I might be interested in more expensive and difficult to obtain.

    I don't use cannabis because I dislike it intensely. I consider the effects unpleasant and would not use it even if I could get it for free and needn't consider the legal hassles it would introduce into my life. (Almost no risk from police, but it would jeopardize nearly any job I might have.)

    There are a handful of psychedelics that I would use regardless of their legality. The only obstacles are accessibility and price, and the fact that I am currently abstaining.

    I am avoiding almost all psychoactives right now, except for caffeine and nicotine, because I am struggling to get my psychiatric medicine adjusted to where I am behaving like a functional adult in society. I don't want to interfere with the medicines I require.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Lets see

    -impairment of judgment
    -money sink
    -short term memory problems
    -addictive
    All associated with alcohol, which is legal. Also, the last two only pertain to Marijuana.

    How do any of these effects benefit society.
    Why is that a prerequisite for something to be legal? How do cigarettes benefit society?

    It has been my experience that people who smoke marijuana are usually lazy, lack a job (collect unemployment), lack motivation, and lack respect for law.
    I have experienced the stereotypical individuals to which you refer. I have also met people with Ph.D.s who smoke Cannabis regularly.

    You may enjoy it personally, but people who care about you pick up the slack and are forced to watch you drag yourself down.
    I don't believe that I am dragging anyone down. I have a job which I enjoy and friends and family who love me.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Why is that a prerequisite for something to be legal? How do cigarettes benefit society?
    Society's working on that, at least in my State (public smoking bans).

    I have experienced the stereotypical individuals to which you refer. I have also met people with Ph.D.s who smoke Cannabis regularly.

    I don't believe that I am dragging anyone down. I have a job which I enjoy and friends and family who love me.
    Chances are you find something in your life inadequate (perhaps life itself), otherwise you would have no need or desire to put yourself in an impaired state.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Okay, so how is Psilocybin('shrooms) or Marijuana a plague on society?
    I like to be in control of my body at all times. I've been flat out drunk plenty of times when I was younger and I didn't much like it. Socially it "the thing" to do but otherwise they weren't times for me to be proud of. I don't want to be one of those guys that wants to drink at noon or right after work or treat it as a coping mechanism.

    Shrooms can stay within you systems (body fat) for years. A guy I knew swore that he was off of the things for months and then suddenly out of the blue a very vivid Puff the Magic dragon was passing through the intersection where he was sitting. No other side effects, blurring of vision, lost of motor control, or time slowing happened according to him. That kinda scares me. Granted though, the guy firmly believes that shrooms are a healthy form of entertainment.

    Marijuana is an odd drug. Claimed to be less addictive that nicotine, more hallucigenic than alcohol but less damaging to the body. Studies have been minimal. However, I haven't seen anything correlating the changes in alcohol related deaths in modern days to Prohibition days. I sometimes wonder if marijuana did become legal would it compound factors similar to those negative surrounding alcohol?

    I mean what rules and regulations would you put on it if it did become illegal? Must be 18..21? Growing and distribution? What kind of fallout from the anti-smoking crowd would affect legal marijuana? Second hand smoke issues?
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Society's working on that, at least in my State (public smoking bans).
    Public smoking bans are far from coming close to outright banning of one of the biggest killers in this country.


    Chances are you find something in your life inadequate (perhaps life itself), otherwise you would have no need or desire to put yourself in an impaired state.
    I find that my knowledge about abstract concepts is lacking. The use of Psilocybin stems from my desire to experience the impossible. You should do some research into Shamanism.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Keorythe View Post
    Shrooms can stay within you systems (body fat) for years. A guy I knew swore that he was off of the things for months and then suddenly out of the blue a very vivid Puff the Magic dragon was passing through the intersection where he was sitting. No other side effects, blurring of vision, lost of motor control, or time slowing happened according to him. That kinda scares me. Granted though, the guy firmly believes that shrooms are a healthy form of entertainment.
    That sounds like a complete fabrication or HPPD, which usually stems from LSD usage.

    Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Public smoking bans are far from coming close to outright banning of one of the biggest killers in this country.
    I don't know, I find it a very effective measure against smoking.

    I find that my knowledge about abstract concepts is lacking. The use of Psilocybin stems from my desire to experience the impossible. You should do some research into Shamanism.
    First thing I found on Shamanism



    Are you the guy on the right?

    Seriously, what is so spiritual about a physical impairment that deceives your mind?

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    I don't know, I find it a very effective measure against smoking.
    Against smoking in public places, sure.



    First thing I found on Shamanism



    Are you the guy on the right?
    Ha, that's pretty amusing. Look into Mexican Shamans and the use of Salvia Divinorum.

    Salvia Divinorum: Shaman Plant

    Seriously, what is so spiritual about a physical impairment that deceives your mind?
    It is your opinion that it deceives the mind. Some would argue that it allows your mind to work at it's full potential. I can certainly sympathize with your viewpoint. That being said, it's much easier to lash out at something you don't understand than actually do some research and experience it yourself.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Against smoking in public places, sure.
    Good enough for me. That way I don't have to eat it with my food.

    Ha, that's pretty amusing. Look into Mexican Shamans and the use of Salvia Divinorum.

    Salvia Divinorum: Shaman Plant

    It is your opinion that it deceives the mind. Some would argue that it allows your mind to work at it's full potential. I can certainly sympathize with your viewpoint. That being said, it's much easier to lash out at something you don't understand than actually do some research and experience it yourself.
    So its one of those "you have to be high to understand" things? Tell me, could you go through life with your mind working "at it's full potential"? I did do a little research and found mounds of medical evidence and research into its physical effects. The nonsensical theories that they spew while they're on 'shrooms are of little interest to me.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Good enough for me. That way I don't have to eat it with my food.
    Which I agree is completely unnecessary.

    So its one of those "you have to be high to understand" things?
    I would say it's similar to a religious or near-death experience: It can be described but hardly understood by anyone besides the individual involved.

    Tell me, could you go through life with your mind working "at it's full potential"?
    Depends on the drug used. A low dosage of shrooms simply accentuates colors and creates a sense of euphoria. DMT induces a form of paralysis, so that would hinder everyday life.

    I did do a little research and found mounds of medical evidence and research into its physical effects.
    Into what substance, specifically? I'd be interested to see this evidence.

    The nonsensical theories that they spew while they're on 'shrooms are of little interest to me.
    While they may be of little interest to you, they certainly interest others.
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