View Poll Results: Why have you decided not to use illegal drugs?

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  • Because I hear horror stories about addiction to them

    15 25.86%
  • Because I know people personally who have suffered from addiction.

    17 29.31%
  • Because I am perfectly happy and serene without them (If it ain't broke...)

    31 53.45%
  • Because the consequences of their being illegal make life miserable for addicts

    12 20.69%
  • Simply because they are illegal

    11 18.97%
  • Other (specify in the thread if you would like)

    20 34.48%
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Wait...you're saying that if I smoke pot, I'll gain super powers!? Sweet! I need to find a supplier.


    Well, in the cases I have seen the mutation has been mostly negative. (skin, fat, muscle and face)
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Ummmmm, have you ever seen a baby that suffered from fetal alcohol syndrome or a baby that suffers from fatally low birth weights because of cigarettes? All drugs have negative side-effects. That you cannot appreciate this fact merely demonstrates your narrow-mindedness and emotional bias against pragmatic solutions.
    You have got to be kidding? Your response has little to do with my reply and really ignores my response.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Think rationally. Why do you think crack (not regular cocaine) ravages communities? Because criminalizing its sale creates an unregulated black market and discourages addicts from seeking help.
    Because alcoholics so readily seek help?

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    Do you honestly think it serves a relevant purpose to jail non-violent drug users? Can you appreciate what a jail term does to a person with a propensity to abuse drugs? What do you think criminalizing drugs actually accomplishes besides providing you with some arbitrary moral satisfaction?
    Obviously you did not bother to read anything else and jumped to a silly conclusion.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Some of them do indeed apply, my list is by no means exhaustive though. Admittedly my opening statement was rash and more extreme than I intended. The argument for Marijuana is strong when compared with Cigarettes. I could live with the legalization of Marijuana, but would still support employer testing, public smoking bans, and DWI screening.
    I smoked for 6 years. I would like to see very restrictive policies on cigarettes(not so much other tobacco), perhaps only have them available at pharmacies with prescriptions for the worst addicts that cannot break the habit even after trying patches and gums and so on.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    The fact is smoking and alcohol are ... are far less addicting than cocaine.
    Do you have a source for this? My sources say the opposite.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    My uncle kicked smoking after 60 years. Comparing numbers does little for comparison purposes since the effects are not even close to being the same.
    Cigarettes are far more dangerous. The numbers are indisputable.

    The fact is smoking and alcohol are already ingrained in society and are far less addicting than cocaine.
    Far less addicting than cocaine? And you would know this how, exactly? I've tried all three of these drugs and I can tell you for a fact that quitting smoking was far harder than choosing not to use cocaine on a regular basis. The same can be said of alcohol. I will drink beer for as long as I live, can't say the same thing for cocaine. It's not the drug itself that is addicting, it's the subjective value assigned by the user to the feeling the drug illicits. Blaming drugs for the actions of the user is like blaming a woman's purse for a robbery. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

    As I see it Marijuana is a less clear case which could result in interesting debate, Cocaine is open and shut.
    There is no debate. Drug laws are unconstitutional and nonsensical. You have no legal or practical argument to support your position. It's based purely on rhetoric and emotion. Furthermore, even if you did have a practical argument to support your position the lack of a legal one negates your premise in its entirety. The government does not retain the authority to ban the use of drugs, period.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Do you have a source for this? My sources say the opposite.
    You're right, I did some investigation and it seems that certainty of mine has been called into question. I didn't find any saying that nicotine is more addictive, though I suspect such evidence will rely solely on numbers.

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post


    Well, in the cases I have seen the mutation has been mostly negative. (skin, fat, muscle and face)
    ...super powers....

    But in reality, I'm not much for banning drugs in general. I think maybe arguments can be made for designer drugs and such considering the capabilities of making something so addictive that people can't stop. But I'm also willing to let people make their own choices so long as they don't involve me.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Cocaine withdrawal won't kill someone. I don;t know where you got that from.
    Doh! I don't know what I was thinking either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    ["URL="https://www.google.com/health/ref/Cocaine+Withdrawal"]The withdrawal from cocaine may not be as unstable as withdrawal from alcohol."[/URL]
    "Crack is an extremely powerful drug. Crack addiction is inevitable; once an individual has tried crack they may be unable to predict or control the extent to which they will continue to use. Crack is probably the most addictive substance yet devised." - crack withdrawal, Crack Detox & crack withdrawal symptoms by addiction withdrawal.com

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I've seen someone beat the living **** out of someone for stealing their smokes.
    So what? I have seen people get beat up for stealing allot of things. Not the same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I've seen my brother go through heroin withdrawal more than once while attempting to get off of heroin (he's been clean for over a year and a half now). That is a real withdrawal.

    I've also seen someone go through alcohol withdrawal. Looks quite the same as heroin, actually. Screaming, twitching, vomiting, violence, etc.
    Just like crack?

    "Crack withdrawal symptoms include but are not limited to:

    agitation
    depression
    intense craving for the drug
    extreme fatigue
    anxiety
    angry outbursts
    lack of motivation
    nausea/vomiting
    shaking
    irritability
    muscle pain
    disturbed sleep

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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    ...super powers....

    But in reality, I'm not much for banning drugs in general. I think maybe arguments can be made for designer drugs and such considering the capabilities of making something so addictive that people can't stop. But I'm also willing to let people make their own choices so long as they don't involve me.
    THC and the Liver mental illness medicinal marijuana

    Positive AND negative effects of marijuana.. I would rank "racing thoughts " as VERY positive effect when I tried it.
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    Re: What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    You're right, I did some investigation and it seems that certainty of mine has been called into question. I didn't find any saying that nicotine is more addictive, though I suspect such evidence will rely solely on numbers.
    Cocaine and Nicotine have similar withdrawals. The difference, IMO, is that nicotine, if made illegal, probably wouldn't really get used by anyone but the curent addicts. There is nowhere near as much effect to the drug as their is with cocaine.

    Over time, an all-out ban on cigarettes would probably have a long-term effect on curbing use, whereas Cocaine has a more obvious immediate pleasure.

    Heroin and alcohol are comparable in withdrawals, and they are quite brutal. The difference is that heroin is far more addictive.
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