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    Re: Should you be fired for how you voted in a election or ballot issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    "Should you be fired" = should you be employed


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    If you are going to state that a person should not be allowed by law to be terminated, you are granting them the right to that employment.
    Not a right to that employment, but a regulation on that employment. A term and condition of the contract, not a right to the contract.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    I notice you skipped over addressing why you believe a person can be terminated for their religious beliefs but not for their vote.
    Keep an eye out and you might notice that I frequently skip over many irrelevant portions of people's arguments

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    Re: Should you be fired for how you voted in a election or ballot issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Keep an eye out and you might notice that I frequently skip over many irrelevant portions of people's arguments
    or uncomfortable to address....I get it.
    From the ashes.

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    fyi Re: Should you be fired for how you voted in a election or ballot issue?

    Look out! The labor unions are proposing changes in their bylaws that will eliminate secret votes on union policies by employees, make all of their votes visible to the other members (or at least the bosses). Any who vote in disagreement can then be punished or fired.

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    Re: Should you be fired for how you voted in a election or ballot issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    While I appreciate your insight, Your personal experience don't make it the rule.
    And maybe hetros that vote for prop 8 aren't being terminated in mass quantities. I was using the information in the article.
    1) a woman was terminated fro voting for Prop 8
    2) a "Black List" has been made for businesses and individuals that voted for Prop 8.
    3) Protesters has decimated a business because the owner voted for Prop 8.

    My only observation is that in a predominately gay area it wouldn't surprise me if a significant amount of people were terminated for their vote.

    I hear you and thanks... My point was to show that I think that this is a rare thing, and not anything to worry about. Unless I missed something, and I probably did, the employers are breaking the law and I am sure that unlawful firings are a fairly common occurance.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Should you be fired for how you voted in a election or ballot issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    Look out! The labor unions are proposing changes in their bylaws that will eliminate secret votes on union policies by employees, make all of their votes visible to the other members (or at least the bosses). Any who vote in disagreement can then be punished or fired.
    Don't just write it prove it please! If this is true it's imperative to be informed.

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    Re: Should you be fired for how you voted in a election or ballot issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by rsixing View Post
    Don't just write it prove it please! If this is true it's imperative to be informed.
    EFCA or Employee Free Choice Act. Would permit unions to be recognized if they secured 50%+1 signatures of an appropriate barganiing unit. This process foregoes conducting union elections. Current card check process requires 30%+1 just for the NLRB to permit an election. Elections are conducted by secret ballot.

    EFCA would change that by permitting union organizers to request employees sign card checks and sign them on the spot. This effectively eliminates the need for elections and removes all secrecy as Joe at lunch is going to feel intimidated to sign the card lest he perceive he'll be ostracized if he doesn't while others around him have.

    Meanwhile, once the union gets 50%+1, the union is the recognized bargaining representative. Once recognized, EFCA would require that a contract be settled within 30 days (maybe only 28) and if not then binding arbitration. Now in states like mine, MI, a union shop state, those employees in the bargaining until are compelled to pay union dues or an admin fee (aka service fee) or they are fired. This is a fundamental shift in how unions may organize and how such union certification elections would be conducted (i.e., will not be conducted).

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    Re: Should you be fired for how you voted in a election or ballot issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    EFCA or Employee Free Choice Act. Would permit unions to be recognized if they secured 50%+1 signatures of an appropriate barganiing unit. This process foregoes conducting union elections. Current card check process requires 30%+1 just for the NLRB to permit an election. Elections are conducted by secret ballot.

    EFCA would change that by permitting union organizers to request employees sign card checks and sign them on the spot. This effectively eliminates the need for elections and removes all secrecy as Joe at lunch is going to feel intimidated to sign the card lest he perceive he'll be ostracized if he doesn't while others around him have.

    Meanwhile, once the union gets 50%+1, the union is the recognized bargaining representative. Once recognized, EFCA would require that a contract be settled within 30 days (maybe only 28) and if not then binding arbitration. Now in states like mine, MI, a union shop state, those employees in the bargaining until are compelled to pay union dues or an admin fee (aka service fee) or they are fired. This is a fundamental shift in how unions may organize and how such union certification elections would be conducted (i.e., will not be conducted).
    ...and the union isn't even the employer
    Last edited by Jerry; 01-06-09 at 01:03 PM.

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    Re: Should you be fired for how you voted in a election or ballot issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ...and the union isn't even the employer
    Yeah, the employer's interests take a huge hit in this. No more elections, no further opportunity to address the claims the union is making, limits to 30 days negotiating a contract and then binding arbitration.

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    Re: Should you be fired for how you voted in a election or ballot issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    Yeah, the employer's interests take a huge hit in this. No more elections, no further opportunity to address the claims the union is making, limits to 30 days negotiating a contract and then binding arbitration.
    How does a workforce get rid of an existing union? Sign cards during lunch?

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    Re: Should you be fired for how you voted in a election or ballot issue?

    Was the employee fired or voting for prop 8? Or is that what she's claiming? I'd have to see what the incident he was written up for was before I make a decision. Simply saying that he was fired for discrimination wouldn't make much sense if the incident in question wasn't also written up. I'll have to wait before I make a decision. I don't think I've ever heard of somebody getting fired for discrimination without the incident for which he was fired also being described in full detail.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 01-06-09 at 01:50 PM.
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