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    Re: What is the proper response to Hamas rockets?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    we bombed the **** out of Japan, and nuked 2 cities
    yet we are not plaged by japanese terrorists, unless they are working on a really long time horizon
    Two completely different situations. We weren't plagued by Japanese terrorists BEFORE we nuked them either.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH
    while nukes are out of the question IMHO
    bombing the **** out of Gaza could be just as effective in breaking Gaza's will
    Unlikely. This pattern has been going on for decades. The Arabs provoke Israel, Israel retaliates, and there's a brief period of peace. Then the cycle repeats. If the Middle East is ever going to move toward a permanent solution, they need to think about the "big picture." Is a bombing campaign - however severe - going to dislodge Hamas? Is it going to make Hamas lose its public support? Both are highly unlikely. The only way to get rid of Hamas' government is with an extremely risky and costly ground invasion...and even then it won't eliminate Hamas' popular support and provides no guarantee that Hamas won't be back in power in the future.

    They've already destroyed most of Hamas' known rocket sites and military sites. That should be good enough to keep a sort-of-peace for a while. In the grand scheme of things, what does continuing a massive bombing campaign accomplish?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH
    Israel just needs to stop pussy-footing around and not bow to international pressure
    If they actually are going to invade instead of just posturing troops at the border (and I hope they aren't), that would be the only way to do it. If they actually invade, they need to abide by Colin Powell's strategy of overwhelming force.
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    Re: What is the proper response to Hamas rockets?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    you make a really good point
    look at all those japanese terrorists we created by dropping the Bombs on Japan
    you make a really good point
    look at all those japanese terrorists we created by dropping the Bombs on Japan


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    Re: What is the proper response to Hamas rockets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Troops are not for arresting criminals. They are for causing vast destruction, death, suffering and most importantly, enormous contrition in one's enemies.

    Precise strikes are part of the problem. The general Palestinian population seem to support these savages, (making them savages themselves, of course.) All Palestinians who survive this war need to understand that their model of politics through terror is probably only going to win them land in the form of unmarked, communal graves.
    Those on the west bank dont support the savages in question and it hasnt done them any good. They,re still losing land.

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    Re: What is the proper response to Hamas rockets?

    Well, unless I missed something, the proper response to Hamas rockets is to fire super laser space beams from out of a Tom Clancy novel to take out the terrorists without harming citizens.

    Is that about right?

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    Re: What is the proper response to Hamas rockets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Those on the west bank dont support the savages in question and it hasnt done them any good. They,re still losing land.
    I wouldn't be so sure, despite political differences they still see them as Palestinians. Israel's attacks are only pushing them closer together. The Fatah is having difficult times preventing people of the West Bank from openly supporting Hamas and starting protests on Israeli lines.

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    Re: What is the proper response to Hamas rockets?

    Originally Posted by Oftencold
    Troops are not for arresting criminals. They are for causing vast destruction, death, suffering and most importantly, enormous contrition in one's enemies.

    Precise strikes are part of the problem. The general Palestinian population seem to support these savages, (making them savages themselves, of course.) All Palestinians who survive this war need to understand that their model of politics through terror is probably only going to win them land in the form of unmarked, communal graves.
    Excuse me!

    Their model of politics is this western democracy we keep telling everyone to live by.

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    Re: What is the proper response to Hamas rockets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well, unless I missed something, the proper response to Hamas rockets is to fire super laser space beams from out of a Tom Clancy novel to take out the terrorists without harming citizens.

    Is that about right?
    No the proper response is to carpet bomb they with gummy bears and cracklings.

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    Re: What is the proper response to Hamas rockets?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure, despite political differences they still see them as Palestinians. Israel's attacks are only pushing them closer together. The Fatah is having difficult times preventing people of the West Bank from openly supporting Hamas and starting protests on Israeli lines.
    I accept that Hamas is being repressed in the West Bank. For example even flying a Hamas flag is illegal there. But my point was that their not fireing rockets into Isreal and this hasnt done them any good. This demonstrates a big hole in the argument that palestinians would be fine if it wasnt for terroism. If this is the case why are those on the West Bank having land taken off them?

    This is also relevant to all the demonisation the palestinians get for voting for Hamas. It has been proven that the moderate line taking by Fatah isnt going to get them anywhere so what choice do they have?

    At the end of the day abhorrent though Hamas is palestinians are voting for it not because of some defect in their genes but because they are given no alternative other than to sit back and let there land get taken from them. If they where offerd some insentive then maybe they would be more willing to compromise [though it has to be said they have already compromised the vast majority of their country]

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    Re: What is the proper response to Hamas rockets?

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    No the proper response is to carpet bomb they with gummy bears and cracklings.
    How about carpet bomb them with pork chops and bacon?
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    Re: What is the proper response to Hamas rockets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Israel should calmly ask Hamas to quit bombing them.
    They did this.... and it didn't work.

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