OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for peace ?

Degreez said:

You're insulting Islam right now. How many people here have called for your beheading?

You're insults to Islam mean little compared to your insult on all those who claim to read legibly.

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Degreez said:

Paul, a man who never met Jesus during his life on Earth, has more works in the New Testament that any of Jesus' disciples. And you take his word over the "Word of God" as presented by Jesus?

Who decided to put the book away? It most surely wasn't Jesus. The 18 times he refers to the Old Testament as the 'word/commandment of God', he never once mentions to stop adhering to it.

But you only refer to the New Testament as being "Christianity". You're expecting us all to believe that Jesus wanted his followers to follow the teachings of some man he never met (only through some hallucinated daydream), a few works of his Disciples (that forsook him), and the judgment of Constantine I (a man who had his wife and eldest son killed) in the first Council of Nicaea. That's not "Christ-like" one bit.


Where was this "cause" of Islam ever established? Not in the Qur'an. Not in the Sunnah of the Muhammad (hadith).

You're insulting Islam right now. How many people here have called for your beheading?

You're insults to Islam mean little compared to your insult on all those who claim to read legibly.

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walleye said:

Why don't you debate in complete thoughts instead of taking little snippits to control the debate? Any fool can do that and many do.

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That is an old tactic of weak debaters on the internet.

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In an actual debate you cannot do that.

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You have to actually form a complete thought to answer a complete thought. This is a tactic of weakness. You're weak.

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I agree the entire bible is scripture

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Put up or shut up.

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walleye said:

Paul said every word he got from Jesus. Read the book of Acts.

If you don't know that there are muslims who demand the beheadings of those who insult Islam then you're very ignorant or a liar or both.

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Bodhisattva said:

That's right... to control the debate. Not for selfish reasons, It is so that we stay ON POINT. Something that you apparently can not do.

If you actually look back at my posts, to those that argue in complete thoughts and express themselves well... AND that are intellectual honest and simply intelligent enough to not spin and create tangents, I don't snippet their posts, since they can follow the conversation like an adult. Hence, I snippet it so that you can follow, since you are seem to get lost easily.




Not always. You are narrow minded and see what you want to see.


In an actual debate you cannot do that.

Sure as hell can. Actually did that when we were in honors debating and such way back in high school. We won all sorts of competitions. Did that at Georgetown and other MUN debates as well... Won those as well. You just suck, that is all.




A moron would come to that conclusion, most likely. It is hard for me to know what a moron would conclude, so I often read conclusions of people that I consider morons to find out. You are now on that list.




They are ALL complete thoughts. Length indicates nothing of validity. You just conceded. That is all I was looking for. EgoffTib was right and you were wrong. Thanks for playing. Loser. :rofl





You just concede and then you puff your chest in challenge again! :rofl
I just proved the case... it is OVER.



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Bodhisattva said:

Stick to the point at hand. You didn't talk about "State Governments". You are changing your argument to fit what you think will help you win a point that you either mis-spoke about or don't understand.

You talked about what happened over a thousand years ago not being relevant to what is happening today. THAT is why you indicated that his analogy was wrong. If you want to make another case or point then fine, acknowledge that on the initial point, he was right and you assessment was wrong. Einstein didn't say E=MC4 and then when called on it, said... no no no, it is E=MC2 and THAT is why I am right and you were wrong. The analogy here was about assessment...

That being said, we are talking about religious leaders in the postion of authority. Governments of any kind are fair game. Theocracy, oligarchy, democracy, military dictatorship, etc. If they are lead by the religious, the his analogy is correct regardless.

Christianity may not actively teach violence, but the Inqusition and the Crusades were EXTREMELY violent actions undertaken in the name of their religion. So were the Salem Witch Trials... as far as affecting percentage of population, the trials were a really big deal. How is that any different than radical Islamists hi-jacking Islam today? It is like you are saying, since there are a billion Chinese and they are an extremely oppressive society that invades and rules innocent Tibet, then Budhists are violent too... the crazy budhist saren gas attacks, etc.

See how far off point I am getting in order to make a point... that is you. Deal with it.

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Bodhisattva said:

There are Christians that want to shoot and lynch black people, including our President.
If you don't know that, then you are ignorant or a liar... well, you ignerant.

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Bodhisattva said:

Look at what a Tool you are... this was a few pages ago in response to YOU! :rofl
No snippets... gee, and you ignored the whole religious leaders versus state government stuff too.
No wonder, you lose so often I can see why you want to keep your tally lower.

Also, Torin and Captain Courtesy MUST be weak debaters as well, they both snippet on the same page linked!
I have never been called weak by anybody serious, and I doubt anybody has called CC weak either.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls...l-still-seeking-peace-105.html#post1057897304

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walleye said:

Paul said every word he wrote was from Jesus. Read the book of Acts.

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walleye said:

If you don't know that there are muslims who demand the beheadings of those who insult Islam then you're very ignorant or a liar or both.

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walleye said:

You're hilarious. Debate honors? LOLOL. Give me some scripture from the bible where God the father or Jesus condones violence to further the cause of Christianity. You didn't. You can't. Calling me a loser doesn't mean you won. Giving us some evidence from the bible would make you the winner because that is what the debate is about. Your entire argument is that Christianity is just as violent as Islam. You have not proven your case with any scripture from the bible to counter the verses from the Koran. In the real world that is called "you lose". Spin some more. You're making us all dizzy.

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Degreez said:

Paul said. It's hearsay, that is all.
Do you believe these people are Christ reincarnate? They all SAID so:
List of people who have claimed to be Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Just like there are some Christian cults who demand an abortion clinic be blown up every time a Christian woman has an abortion. Notice how I used the word SOME?

Answer this, do you even know what the mandate of Cognite Intrar was? How many million people died because of Augustine's ideology?

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walleye said:

You are very weak. Get used to being called weak. The fact someone like you would say I lost only confirms your weakness. Losers always go around claiming victory. In fact, just today Hamas claimed victory. That's who you remind me of. You get the snot knocked out of you and then make posts about how you won. Any fool can do that. you and Hamas are living proof.

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Bodhisattva said:

No. OUR debate was about the relevance of introducing past religious events that were violent in order to put today's violence in CONTEXT. You have no perspective, consequently you are biased and your opinions count for little.

THAT is why I snippet your posts.

That debate is over.

You conceded.

You lost.

End of story.




Want to have a new debate then? OK, How about:

Violence in the Qu'ran versus violence in the Bible?

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walleye said:

No it is not "hearsay". Peter wrote that Paul's writings were scripture. Get a legitimite argument or get off it. You're grasping at straws now, not facts.

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Vader said:

Your religion allows for women to be stoned to death and for homosexuals to be hung. You have no right to talk.

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Vader said:

That is an old testiment rule that have been obsolete for thousands of years. The last time it was really used was in Nazi Germany ... and we all know how that ended.

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Vader said:

Not used anymore. We do not require people to join the state religion. Your country does.

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Vader said:

Again ... you shouldn't be talking.

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Vader said:

"O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (Koran, 9:73)


"When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:4)

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Vader said:

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger (Prophet) and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, ..." (Koran, 5:33-34)

Cant we defend ourselves against who harms us, God or prophet ?

Vader said:

"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (Koran, 8:37)

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X Non-Muslims X ,
Is that a new version of koran ?

Vader said:

"Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them." (Koran, 8:12)

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The verse is talking about the war between Muslims and Athiests in the begining of the invitation, had you heard me ... WAR .

:doh

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Bodhisattva said:

Weak from you doesn't really equate to much, for like I said...
Morons come up with all sorts of moronic conclusions. *shrugs*

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Vader said:

I was countering Ahmed's post nothing more.

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Ahmed Shaheen said:

Kill Homosexuals :
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Death for Adultery :
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)




Not my problem, wasn't it written there ?




Are you trying to escape by your last two quotes ?
What "not used any more" and what BS, aren't they written in the bible ?

you do know nothing about my country, we leave Athiests.



Oh, I see a cockrach on my way *SMASH* :rofl

The muslim world is not so kind:
The Muslim Bible commands Muslims to murder all non-Muslims:



The unbelievers as I said 100 times before are the Athiests, and they were told to fought them because they were harming Muslims and prophet. any other inventions ?

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Shewter said:

Just a quick note Ahmed, that is not the New Testament in which they were referring to.

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Ahmed Shaheen said:

Its unfair then, because we have no new testament of Koran.

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Ahmed Shaheen said:

Its unfair then, because we have no new testament of Koran.

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walleye said:

You remind me of Dennis Hopper in "Red Rock West" with the cast iron fence post stuck through his chest yelling "come back here, I'm not through with you yet".

Past religious events compared to today is exactly the same thing. Violence in the bible compared to violence today. Same thing. Idiot.

I never conceded. Show me where I conceded.

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walleye said:

No it is not "hearsay". Peter wrote that Paul's writings were scripture. Get a legitimite argument or get off it. You're grasping at straws now, not facts.

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walleye said:

If they say they are Christians then they are liars because Jesus never taught that.

You're more confused than a termite in a yo yo. Yo yo.

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